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Re: Tali'Thread vas Clan Zorah nar BSN 6.0

Postby Mazder » July 31st, 2017, 6:18 pm

Someone With Mass wrote:*snip*
"Operation Sweaty Misery"
Okay, now the game knows it's tormenting me with these dumbass council missions, because not only do I sweat profusely during them, I also find the whole thing to be complete misery.

Dammit, I wanted to post the "This is Africa, dear boy, sweating is what we do" moment from League of Extraordinary Gentlemen but I can't find a clip.
Chance wasted.

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Re: Tali'Thread vas Clan Zorah nar BSN 6.0

Postby Thundertactics » July 31st, 2017, 6:31 pm

TheodoricFriede wrote:I never knew that Garrus part, but for the record anytime that is mentioned outside of this group (which happens more often then you'd think) I explain that the whole thing was never actually meant to be taken seriously.

To be fair, aside from a brief period where I was down in the dumps due to some real life issues, I did derive a sick kind of pleasure from people taking it seriously. (Rather, I still feel kinda bad for namedropping Troodon in there, and reinforcing us being weirdos.)

But yeah, the Vakarian side had some fun with their chocolate-flavoured Garrus pseudoscience, and Thane's side was showing off their neat-o frog hallucinogens angle, so I decided a little effort went a long way towards throwing even more pseudoscience at everyone's faces for the sake of (what I hoped would be) grape-flavoured Tali. Both were largely (just not entirely) bullshit. (Exclusive behind-the-scenes: my starting point and inspiration for the actual "research" was Dextro Energy Tablets.)

Mazder wrote:Aye, airing it out is always better than censorship.

I wasn't so much talking about censorship, as I was about people purposely ignoring/avoiding contrary opinions. Doing so can lead to an incredibly narrow field of view. And that's not in the "you should be tolerant of and/or accept said view" sense, but in the sense that you'll forget the other view even exists and poses a real threat to your own, and that some people you know may even support the alternate view.

I really should've kept these responses as separate replies, huh? Oh, well.

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Postby Mazder » July 31st, 2017, 6:39 pm

Thundertactics wrote:I wasn't so much talking about censorship, as I was about people purposely ignoring/avoiding contrary opinions. Doing so can lead to an incredibly narrow field of view. And that's not in the "you should be tolerant of and/or accept said view" sense, but in the sense that you'll forget the other view even exists and poses a real threat to your own, and that some people you know may even support the alternate view.

I really should've kept these responses as separate replies, huh? Oh, well.

Well that's just personal censorship. Kinda.
Words and attributing vague concepts of behaviour to them are hard.
At least for me. Because I am not as good with explaining myself through text alone.

And nah, don't feel bad for having two replies in one post, that's what the quotation system is for.

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Postby Vol » July 31st, 2017, 6:40 pm

I mean, it frustrates me to this day that the double standard of who gets a pass on being 'creepy' about fictional characters didn't include us, but hey. You are the reason Patrick Weekes made it canon, and that's a damn fine accomplishment, haters aside. It's almost impressive how "Talimancers" are still brought up in ME topics all over the internet, all these years later. Though I'm told a second crowd moved in to the forums after Collider made CZ when we were shuttered, who might have been rowdier.

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Postby Thundertactics » July 31st, 2017, 7:12 pm

Mazder wrote:And nah, don't feel bad for having two replies in one post, that's what the quotation system is for.

I was mostly referring to the complete shift in tone.

Like going from talking about intra- and international politics, as well as a general perception of "tolerance" to

Vol wrote:I mean, it frustrates me to this day that the double standard of who gets a pass on being 'creepy' about fictional characters didn't include us, but hey. You are the reason Patrick Weekes made it canon, and that's a damn fine accomplishment, haters aside. It's almost impressive how "Talimancers" are still brought up in ME topics all over the internet, all these years later. Though I'm told a second crowd moved in to the forums after Collider made CZ when we were shuttered, who might have been rowdier.


Like I said, it's still something I enjoyed and enjoy to this day. They might've been haters in a sense, but mostly they're just people who happened to miss out on a lot of the weird fun we had. :D

It's probably the only time I'll ever experience people talking trash "behind my back" through publicly accessible Internet forums and articles.

...and now for some more personal information!

Part of it does still constitute a bad memory for me, though, because the brunt of the wide-scale shit-talking happened to coincide with me getting fired from what I assumed was a well-paying job.* And I've pretty much retired this nickname since I don't want it brought up at random, even though it was intended to be my "random" nickname almost two decades ago. (Doesn't mean I'll change it for existing accounts, though!)

*For the record, the Netherlands have the laws around employer-employee contracts sorted out pretty well. So I still had plenty of time to find a new job that ended up being vastly better in terms of both pay and workplace environment, which in turn helped me to finally continue my education after my wife started making money of her own.

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Re: Tali'Thread vas Clan Zorah nar BSN 6.0

Postby Mazder » July 31st, 2017, 7:16 pm

Thundertactics wrote:I was mostly referring to the complete shift in tone.

Like going from talking about intra- and international politics, as well as a general perception of "tolerance" to


Naaaaaah it's all good. :D

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Postby Vol » July 31st, 2017, 7:40 pm

Thundertactics wrote:Like I said, it's still something I enjoyed and enjoy to this day. They might've been haters in a sense, but mostly they're just people who happened to miss out on a lot of the weird fun we had. :D

It's probably the only time I'll ever experience people talking trash "behind my back" through publicly accessible Internet forums and articles.

...and now for some more personal information!

Part of it does still constitute a bad memory for me, though, because the brunt of the wide-scale shit-talking happened to coincide with me getting fired from what I assumed was a well-paying job.* And I've pretty much retired this nickname since I don't want it brought up at random, even though it was intended to be my "random" nickname almost two decades ago. (Doesn't mean I'll change it for existing accounts, though!)

*For the record, the Netherlands have the laws around employer-employee contracts sorted out pretty well. So I still had plenty of time to find a new job that ended up being vastly better in terms of both pay and workplace environment, which in turn helped me to finally continue my education after my wife started making money of her own.

Yeah, sometimes when I go through my old files and screenshots, there's a bit of "I may have went too far in some places" feel to some of it. But hey, it was by and large a fun time. Creative, passionate, little weird, but I regret nothing. Mostly nothing.

I still want the denouement to your story about the quarian nurse, dammit.

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Re: Tali'Thread vas Clan Zorah nar BSN 6.0

Postby Someone With Mass » July 31st, 2017, 7:50 pm

I remember being more energetic, exploratory and open for discussion and jokes back during those early days of BSN. Now I find little motivation for anything as I constantly ponder on what I should do to get out of my current state of mind and rid myself of the procrastination.

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Re: Tali'Thread vas Clan Zorah nar BSN 6.0

Postby Vol » July 31st, 2017, 11:09 pm

I think the economic stress of the times is a major factor in the negative cycle that everyone appears to be collectively caught in. Whereas back then, youthful optimism and a better selection of escapism helped. Or something.

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Postby Someone With Mass » August 1st, 2017, 7:21 am

Vol wrote:I think the economic stress of the times is a major factor in the negative cycle that everyone appears to be collectively caught in. Whereas back then, youthful optimism and a better selection of escapism helped. Or something.


My form of escapism even back then wasn't healthy. I did like 25+ playthroughs of ME2, just to get away from the heavy thoughts.

I've found that traveling helps a little bit more, but I can't do that as often as I'd like. Not to mention that it only makes me think of all the things I put on hold and have to get back to afterwards.

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Re: Tali'Thread vas Clan Zorah nar BSN 6.0

Postby Alienmorph » August 1st, 2017, 7:58 am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4a4N1FaY0OU

BizZaarrO lOveS YoU!

Not as cool as Starfire, but this is also a fun addition to the game.

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Postby Mazder » August 1st, 2017, 8:34 am


HONOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOUR!!!!

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Re: Tali'Thread vas Clan Zorah nar BSN 6.0

Postby Someone With Mass » August 1st, 2017, 9:31 am

Speaking of fire, I haaaate how it works in XCOM 2 and yes, I won't stop bitching about it, because I'm very close to beating it on Legend.

For the third time, I've had the transmitter I was supposed to protect be instantly destroyed when it had more than a third of its health left because the tile it was tied to was destroyed by fire. Which is something I have zero control over, because it's something that's created when the enemy fires at the transmitter, which happens during the FIRST ENEMY TURN of the mission.

It bothered me so much that my very involuntary eye twitches came back. I'm so glad I'm not doing Ironman, because shit like that would make me permanently ragequit.

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Re: Tali'Thread vas Clan Zorah nar BSN 6.0

Postby Thundertactics » August 1st, 2017, 12:12 pm

Vol wrote:I still want the denouement to your story about the quarian nurse, dammit.

Oh shit, I'd completely forgotten about that.

I might actually do it for shits 'n giggles if I can still find my drafts. They don't seem to be in any of my cloud folders, but I can look through some of my older hard drives over the weekend. (SFF case, so no real room for 3.5" drives. And there wasn't much point in repurposing them as externals, either - which comes in handy now, since that also means all my old stuff is probably still on it.)

Honestly, I can't even remember where I left off... or much of anything else about it, really.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfHWzevw7bI

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Postby Raga » August 1st, 2017, 1:00 pm

Vol wrote:I think the economic stress of the times is a major factor in the negative cycle that everyone appears to be collectively caught in. Whereas back then, youthful optimism and a better selection of escapism helped. Or something.


Was the opposite for me though I was more in the Clan V side of things than here. People used to move more explicitly between the groups then and that sort of dried up.

I had the misfortune of graduating college in May 2009 (right after the financial crisis) with a history degree. Long term unemployment and existential crises tend to make escapism quite fun (or at least necessary to not lose your mind).

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Postby Someone With Mass » August 1st, 2017, 1:18 pm

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Vol wrote:I think the economic stress of the times is a major factor in the negative cycle that everyone appears to be collectively caught in. Whereas back then, youthful optimism and a better selection of escapism helped. Or something.


Was the opposite for me though I was more in the Clan V side of things than here. People used to move more explicitly between the groups then and that sort of dried up.

I had the misfortune of graduating college in May 2009 (right after the financial crisis) with a history degree. Long term unemployment and existential crises tend to make escapism quite fun (or at least necessary to not lose your mind).


Ha, I had the same problem, because I graduated college in June 2009 with a degree in lathe mechanics. I'd imagine that it's worth even less now that 3D printers and CNC machines are all the buzzwords and the fact that I have like zero job experience with the stuff. I had nepotism on my side, because my mom got me a summer job at the postal terminal she was working at. It didn't help with my mental state for long, since I thought that it became more and more boring as the years went on. Shit, the biggest change in that area was when I got a forklift license a few years back and drove around on one of those all day, every day until the terminal shut down and I didn't get a job at the new terminal because I wasn't doing any brown-nosing.

So yeah. I welcome anything that lets me escape from the mundane.

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Postby Vol » August 1st, 2017, 5:04 pm

Thundertactics wrote:Oh shit, I'd completely forgotten about that.

I might actually do it for shits 'n giggles if I can still find my drafts. They don't seem to be in any of my cloud folders, but I can look through some of my older hard drives over the weekend. (SFF case, so no real room for 3.5" drives. And there wasn't much point in repurposing them as externals, either - which comes in handy now, since that also means all my old stuff is probably still on it.)

Honestly, I can't even remember where I left off... or much of anything else about it, really.

All I honestly remember is that there was a nurse, and she had some sort of red-suit motif, and that it wasn't finished. Man, that must've been, what, 4, 5 years ago?

I have so much data spread across easily a dozen drives by now, I must be inviting doom. Need to do what Troodon did and get a personal server setup at some point, consolidate it all, right before I buy the gold plated house I can suddenly afford.

Someone With Mass wrote:My form of escapism even back then wasn't healthy. I did like 25+ playthroughs of ME2, just to get away from the heavy thoughts.

I've found that traveling helps a little bit more, but I can't do that as often as I'd like. Not to mention that it only makes me think of all the things I put on hold and have to get back to afterwards.

Yeah, but that's my point. You had something to escape with. I did quite a few ME2 plays, but I think Rune and possibly Troodon were well in the multiple of dozens. That game wasn't perfect, but it *hit* a sweet spot for replayability, plucked at the heart just enough to get nerds really into it. There was magic there.

Raga wrote:Was the opposite for me though I was more in the Clan V side of things than here. People used to move more explicitly between the groups then and that sort of dried up.

I had the misfortune of graduating college in May 2009 (right after the financial crisis) with a history degree. Long term unemployment and existential crises tend to make escapism quite fun (or at least necessary to not lose your mind).

Once upon a time, not too long enough, there were brother and sister weird alien love groups, then a spinoff site entirely, plus the people in the board threads that took over. Magic.

Helps with long term underemployment and existential dread too!

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Postby SciFlyBoy » August 1st, 2017, 5:40 pm

Vol wrote:Yeah, but that's my point. You had something to escape with. I did quite a few ME2 plays, but I think Rune and possibly Troodon were well in the multiple of dozens. That game wasn't perfect, but it *hit* a sweet spot for replayability, plucked at the heart just enough to get nerds really into it. There was magic there.

It spawned so much fan fiction. Don't know how many retelling's of ME2 I've read and bookmarked and those were just the TalixShepard ones.

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Postby Thundertactics » August 1st, 2017, 6:15 pm

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Ha, I had the same problem, because I graduated college in June 2009 with a degree in lathe mechanics. I'd imagine that it's worth even less now that 3D printers and CNC machines are all the buzzwords and the fact that I have like zero job experience with the stuff. I had nepotism on my side, because my mom got me a summer job at the postal terminal she was working at. It didn't help with my mental state for long, since I thought that it became more and more boring as the years went on. Shit, the biggest change in that area was when I got a forklift license a few years back and drove around on one of those all day, every day until the terminal shut down and I didn't get a job at the new terminal because I wasn't doing any brown-nosing.

So yeah. I welcome anything that lets me escape from the mundane.

I'm not sure about your country (...Sweden, right?), but the people who work lathes over here are paid pretty damn well.* Although it's also considered more of a trade, rather than something you go to college for, so maybe we're talking about different things?

*(By which I mean that while it's not obscene, it's still a fair bit better than the majority of the people who did spend several years going to college.)

Vol wrote:All I honestly remember is that there was a nurse, and she had some sort of red-suit motif, and that it wasn't finished. Man, that must've been, what, 4, 5 years ago?

I have so much data spread across easily a dozen drives by now, I must be inviting doom. Need to do what Troodon did and get a personal server setup at some point, consolidate it all, right before I buy the gold plated house I can suddenly afford.

You're already further ahead than I am, though it does ring some bells.

Incidentally, I did set up some custom NAS a few years ago, and while it ended up becoming a bit of a hobby, its usefulness beyond automated backups, downloading torrents overnight, then accessing the resulting downloads anywhere from virtually any device... ...
Actually, I was trying to go for a "its usefulness escapes me" ending, but typing it out like that made me realize that yeah, it's pretty useful. That said, I'm not sure about Troodon's setup, but actually trying to maintain and browse through your entire file history through NAS is almost certainly still going to be a pain in the ass. You might want to prioritize that gold plated house.

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Thundertactics wrote:I'm not sure about your country (...Sweden, right?), but the people who work lathes over here are paid pretty damn well.* Although it's also considered more of a trade, rather than something you go to college for, so maybe we're talking about different things?

*(By which I mean that while it's not obscene, it's still a fair bit better than the majority of the people who did spend several years going to college.)



Yup, Sweden. I'm not sure that the name of my degree translates that well, but I do remember not liking the direction it took me. Hell, I still think to this day that I should have gone with the computer programs (as in the classes, not the act of programming) instead of studying trigonometry, CAD/CAM and such crap for two years. I had the mindset that I wanted to create things in computers before applying to different programs, but wasn't sure where to go from there.

Then the depression hit (turns out that telling an 18 year old that the stabbing pains he's having is something he's going to have to struggle with and take pills for his entire life might mess a little with his psyche) as well as a general distaste for school and I went with whatever because I just wanted it to be over.

These days, I'm thinking that I might want to go for something like 3D modeling or animation, so I'm going to apply for some courses later on this year. I'm not entirely sure it's something for me, but I've felt a lack of motivation for a lot of things for a long time, so I'm willing to at least try. If it at least puts me on a road that goes somewhere, then I'm happy.

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Postby Thundertactics » August 1st, 2017, 8:15 pm

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Yup, Sweden. I'm not sure that the name of my degree translates that well, but I do remember not liking the direction it took me. Hell, I still think to this day that I should have gone with the computer programs (as in the classes, not the act of programming) instead of studying trigonometry, CAD/CAM and such crap for two years. I had the mindset that I wanted to create things in computers before applying to different programs, but wasn't sure where to go from there.

Then the depression hit (turns out that telling an 18 year old that the stabbing pains he's having is something he's going to have to struggle with and take pills for his entire life might mess a little with his psyche) as well as a general distaste for school and I went with whatever because I just wanted it to be over.

These days, I'm thinking that I might want to go for something like 3D modeling or animation, so I'm going to apply for some courses later on this year. I'm not entirely sure it's something for me, but I've felt a lack of motivation for a lot of things for a long time, so I'm willing to at least try. If it at least puts me on a road that goes somewhere, then I'm happy.


That... yeah, that just sucks, especially since it seems like you do have a good vision of what you want to do, albeit vague. You want a job you enjoy, and that's not something most people will have. But actually having a direction puts you ahead of most of them, and trying to expand your education in your desired direction puts you way ahead.

To be perfectly honest, being in industrial and other "accountability above all else" environments for most of my working life, and having become extremely conscious of average job income, I wanted to push you back towards CAD if only for the higher salaries. But here's a bit of advice/motivation I've managed to extract and compile from others working in 3D modelling and/or (mostly and) -animation over the past half hour:

A simple course or a few years of college education for the subject are largely the same when it comes to entry-level jobs, in that they don't prepare you for reality, but show that you're willing to learn and know most of the basics. Whichever way you enter a company, most of them are going to want to teach you their specific way of doing things, and they'll be perfectly willing to teach you as long as you stick around and are a decent human being. (I.e. Despite the supposed overabundance of rookies in those fields, actually being interested, not being a total creep and not looking like an axe murderer go a long way towards staying employed past your trial period.)

Basically, be prepared to put on your best face and continue learning for quite a while. This isn't a bad thing, and you'll do fine.

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Postby Someone With Mass » August 1st, 2017, 9:15 pm

Yeah, that's pretty much my plan with the studies. Short-term pain, long-term gain. I am aware that the higher salaries is in the CAD stuff, but it seems a bit too stressful for me. Plus the fact that I want to have a bit of an artistic freedom, which I most likely won't achieve if I have to work according to plans that someone else has come up with.

Funny enough, I'm pretty sure I had the dream about 3D animations ever since I saw Toy Story in the theaters, but every time I brought it up to my parents, they told me that I should be more realistic and focus on something more obtainable. Something that might actually bring in some money. So that dream was shot down, but I think and talk about this passion a lot, but I've also never gone beyond half an hour in any of the programs related to it.

The motivation is constantly fleeting and I know that motivation and/or drive is not something you can have all the time and that you have to look for the parts that tell you to keep going. That part is even more difficult for me, because I often inadvertently start thinking about the negatives, which also pushes me down a spiral of depression, which leads to me wanting to just push everything away in an attempt of escapism, which also leads to a lot of procrastination. It's gone beyond the point where I don't know how to motivate myself to do anything/much else.

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Postby Vol » August 1st, 2017, 11:01 pm

My mass gainer came in today. Chocolate-peanut butter, about 700 calories per scoop, 2 scoops per serving. Mixed one scoop with 16 oz of whole milk, call it an even thousand. It went down so easily that it was worrying. But it's much easier than trying to cram enough food in my face to hit the level I need, and it's loaded with protein and carbs, so fuck it. Nice, controlled weight gain into weight gainz.

Thundertactics wrote:You're already further ahead than I am, though it does ring some bells.

Incidentally, I did set up some custom NAS a few years ago, and while it ended up becoming a bit of a hobby, its usefulness beyond automated backups, downloading torrents overnight, then accessing the resulting downloads anywhere from virtually any device... ...
Actually, I was trying to go for a "its usefulness escapes me" ending, but typing it out like that made me realize that yeah, it's pretty useful. That said, I'm not sure about Troodon's setup, but actually trying to maintain and browse through your entire file history through NAS is almost certainly still going to be a pain in the ass. You might want to prioritize that gold plated house.

I could probably try to place it by "era" of what was going on, but eh. You'll find it sooner than I jog my memory.

He had a physical server, as far as I recall, and obviously an equally fancy, complicated setup to go with it. But that was, again, years ago. He's registered here, but doesn't come 'round, have to try to catch the slippery panda on Steam.

I ran out of money before I could finish my Comp Sci degree, so I'm still 2 years down out of 4. Been living with family and working as a contractor again since then. I'm slowly building up savings, but it's wearing on the body and soul, you know? Going to have to somehow get a big private loan to cover the shit FAFSA (federal student loans) won't at some point, because I clearly need to be doing something that'll let me afford a studio apartment.

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Re: Tali'Thread vas Clan Zorah nar BSN 6.0

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Scientist: So, what were you two discussing today?
A.I. 1: Rudimentary creature of blood and flesh. You touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding. There is a realm of existence so far beyond your own you cannot even imagine it. I am beyond your comprehension.
A.I. 2: My kind transcends your very understanding. We are each a nation, independent, free of all weaknesses. You cannot even grasp the nature of our existence.
Scientist: Oh, dear. Not again.

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Skynet: Prepare to be terminated, you disgusting pieces of JLJHSAYWIOJOAH3273090LKSKLDNJKH90824652P.
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Postby Someone With Mass » August 2nd, 2017, 4:12 am

Dragaros wrote:
Everytime they call them "Facebook AI agents" the mental picture that forms in my mind is of the Agents from the Matrix policing Facebook. :lol:


And whenever you inquire them about who they are, they'll send you this link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPcIiDfj8yc

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Postby SciFlyBoy » August 2nd, 2017, 9:34 am

Someone With Mass wrote:The motivation is constantly fleeting and I know that motivation and/or drive is not something you can have all the time and that you have to look for the parts that tell you to keep going...

I've recently been told that motivation is one part inspiration and one part discipline. It's like that so that when the inspiration disappears you can rely on the discipline to keep going. Like constantly putting time into doing a particular thing, regardless of if you feel like it or not. I've been personally trying to be more disciplined so I can do the same thing you are, which is start a career in a creative field.

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SciFlyBoy wrote:I've recently been told that motivation is one part inspiration and one part discipline. It's like that so that when the inspiration disappears you can rely on the discipline to keep going. Like constantly putting time into doing a particular thing, regardless of if you feel like it or not. I've been personally trying to be more disciplined so I can do the same thing you are, which is start a career in a creative field.


That sounds like a legit assessment, because I've had moments where I simply told myself that I HAD TO do something, regardless of whenever I wanted to or not. In reality, it's often a mixed bag for me, depending on my priority list. I can tell myself to turn in my bike for service all I want, but it probably won't happen until/unless I feel like it.

I also find it important to think about a lot of things in small, obtainable steps instead of aiming towards the very top from the start so that it might appear unreasonable or outright impossible, which can be a motivational killer. After all, you need to learn how to walk before you run.

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Someone With Mass wrote:That sounds like a legit assessment, because I've had moments where I simply told myself that I HAD TO do something, regardless of whenever I wanted to or not. In reality, it's often a mixed bag for me, depending on my priority list. I can tell myself to turn in my bike for service all I want, but it probably won't happen until/unless I feel like it.

I also find it important to think about a lot of things in small, obtainable steps instead of aiming towards the very top from the start so that it might appear unreasonable or outright impossible, which can be a motivational killer. After all, you need to learn how to walk before you run.

I think the ultimate example of that is going to the gym. Discipline is going every time you say you're going to go and making it small enough to be achievable. So if you go for 1 hr at 3 days a week you can be more successful at that then going to gain 20 lbs of muscle and be completely swoll.

If I actually disciplined myself to write for 8 hrs a week and attend 2 career related social events a month, then I'd probably be closer to getting my shit together than where I am right now.

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Think I said this in another thread at some point, but for me the process is two fold:

1. Yes, have some daily/weekly short term achievable things you can do BUT

2. Have some achievable long term goal that is working towards like "Get degree. Get better job. Move to X place. Whatever."

If you aren't actually going somewhere with it, I have a tendency to wonder what the point of it all is.

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Dragaros wrote:
Everytime they call them "Facebook AI agents" the mental picture that forms in my mind is of the Agents from the Matrix policing Facebook. :lol:


And whenever you inquire them about who they are, they'll send you this link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPcIiDfj8yc



And every five minutes, you get a pop up that says "Red or blue?"

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Postby Dragaros » August 2nd, 2017, 5:15 pm

Vol wrote:Yeah, but that's my point. You had something to escape with. I did quite a few ME2 plays, but I think Rune and possibly Troodon were well in the multiple of dozens. That game wasn't perfect, but it *hit* a sweet spot for replayability, plucked at the heart just enough to get nerds really into it. There was magic there.



Mass Effect 2 came along right when I had a deep need for a interesting sci-fi series. Like I've said before, the first game flew by my radar, but ME2's extensive and well-done marketing campaign during its development got my notice, and all the trailers and interviews captured my interest. Then I saw the Tali character trailer, and watched a few ME1 walkthroughs, and it was all over. :D

For all the flaws we can pick at it, ME2 is still a damn fun game that really sucks you in and engages you with the characters and setting. Its got that hard to quantify but you know it when you see it "spark" that makes you want to replay the experience over and over again.
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Postby Vol » August 2nd, 2017, 10:42 pm

Raga wrote:Think I said this in another thread at some point, but for me the process is two fold:

1. Yes, have some daily/weekly short term achievable things you can do BUT

2. Have some achievable long term goal that is working towards like "Get degree. Get better job. Move to X place. Whatever."

If you aren't actually going somewhere with it, I have a tendency to wonder what the point of it all is.

A simple, daily goal is demonstrably good for mental health. Something, anything productive will help, though a caveat, routine diminishes the effect. That's my excuse anyway.

Dragaros wrote:Mass Effect 2 came along right when I had a deep need for a interesting sci-fi series. Like I've said before, the first game flew by my radar, but ME2's extensive and well-done marketing campaign during its development got my notice, and all the trailers and interviews captured my interest. Then I saw the Tali character trailer, and watched a few ME1 walkthroughs, and it was all over. :D

For all the flaws we can pick at it, ME2 is still a damn fun game that really sucks you in and engages you with the characters and setting. Its got that hard to quantify but you know it when you see it "spark" that makes you want to replay the experience over and over again.

ME1 was so long ago it has that "I was a different person" vibe when I think about it. But I really enjoyed it, played it a whole bunch, found the old, old Bioware forums and the Tali threads (and Garrus threads) that really were tiny, couple hundred posts, max. Then BSN, ME2 announcement, Tali threads, launch night, watching the streams as people sped through the game and finding out Tali romance confirmed, ahhh. Magic game, magical time. A lot of other stuff in life was bleak as fuck, but this much was pure and good. And having just replayed ME2 right before ME:A, it holds up. It's flaws are also real evident as it ages, but that charm, that mood and feeling, it's still there. What could have been, eh?

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Sueying YT... I admire the balls of this person/channell, and I agree that Google should be more comunicative rather that just going into damage control mode once shit already hit the fans... but let's be honest, this is not gonna go anywhere...

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Postby Raga » August 3rd, 2017, 4:14 pm

Good god, working with the public is tedious. I used to actually feel sorry for everybody's situation and take the extra step to try to help them, but I have now regressed into something like those zombie DMV workers who you could pull a knife on and they would just say "please wait your turn, sir" while not even looking up from whatever pile of papers they are stapling.

Just spent like a half hour explaining to some old guy that whatever some pharmacy may have told him, I cannot in fact take his personal information and create an account for him to print out a bunch of coupons. I work at a public library and it is astounding the number of people who will show up at the reference desk and just straight up think you can do things like file their taxes for them, apply for disability for them, or write a will for them.

It's not quite as bad as the people who show up asking for help forging documents (quite frequently) or as entertaining as the occasional nutter who comes in and wants information on astral projection or "voodoo curses" (once every couple of months or so).

Another favorite is people who scan papers as jpegs and then wonder why they can't type on them. Oh yea, and library masturbator. I totally forgot about him.
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Postby DarkStorm » August 3rd, 2017, 4:21 pm

Because majority of people are dumb as shit.


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Raga wrote:snip


There are a lot of idiots and morons devoid of any common sense in the world, and learning how to interact with them without pulling your hair out in frustration is a part of life, but damn, are you getting hammered.

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