Bioware General (Mass Effect/Dragon Age/Other)

[Vol]

Vetra lithograph just shipped out, should be here in 3 days.

[Deano]

Well it's just been confirmed there will be no more patches for ME:A.

What an utterly sad end for my favourite game series.

Edit: Single player patches

[Mazder]

No future updates on Singleplayer or Story related content.
MP only from now on for Mass Effect Andromeda.

https://www.masseffect.com/news/mass-ef ... the-studio

Now this means the end of ME:A but they're not shelving the IP just yet so I guess we'll wait and see what's going to come out on N7 day and then if it's the next game or the end.

[Alienmorph]

Can't say I'm surprised. Or that I care all that much for that matter. I do feel sorry for the people that did, tho...

Once again... might as well just have ended everything with the Citadel DlC, back in the days. At least that did feel like a proper farewell.

[Someone With Mass]

Can't say I didn't see that one coming. EA can only think five minutes ahead, after all.

[Vol]

Well, fuck. The ember of hope, snuffed. The comics and books get to tell the story.

Ahhhh. Be a good long while before we see a new Mass Effect game then. I might even be in my 40s by then, if they put it in deep freeze.

Game caught way more shit than it deserved, and it deserved more than a little. But it was still Mass Effect, even in a strange, new form. I was waiting on that DLC to jump back in, play it through with all the patches in, and really dig into it. Now Bioware is down to Dragon Age, TOR, and Anthem.

I'm feeling old today.

[Mazder]

I doubt it'll be put in deep freeze. Casey Hudson is in the driver's seat so he's going to do something Mass Effect related while he can.

We all knew that ME:A was going to be a break before the serious Mass Effect starts up again.
Now there is confirmation of stoppage they can get shit done and then the sooner the crap is out of the way the sooner they can return to Mass Effect.

[Alienmorph]

Casey, like pretty much everyone left in BW worth mentioning, for good or bad deeds, is working on Anthem and in the new Dragon Age. And with two games in a row that did made a profit, but less than expected and also brought in alot of controversies and bad press with them... yeah, let's not fool ourselves. I'd love for this to be a wake up call rather than the end of the roard for the series, but I'm not holding my breath.

[magnuskn]

They'll get back to it, eventually. But, hopefully, not in the Andromeda galaxy.

[UNiT]

Rip Mass Effect

[Vol]

Kind of interesting how Dragon Age kept going despite what happened with DA2, while ME is (was?) Bioware's flagship title for the last decade, and gets relegated to a mostly rookie studio. Was DA:I a huge success financially?

[TTTX]

They'll get back to it, eventually. But, hopefully, not in the Andromeda galaxy.

Probably reboot or prequel.

I don't see a sequel in the milky way, unless BW either makes a cannon ending (along with some choices) to ME3 or they just forget the ME3 ending all together and just continue like it never happened.

Kind of interesting how Dragon Age kept going despite what happened with DA2, while ME is (was?) Bioware's flagship title for the last decade, and gets relegated to a mostly rookie studio. Was DA:I a huge success financially?

BW was very well liked around the time DA2 came out, a lot of people gave it a pass because of the previous good (+ ME2 hadn't been release that long before) will from BW, it wasn't until ME3 ending fiasco BW's name took a nose dive into the dirt and have been limping on ever since.

Although I get the feeling ME is on ice is simple because EA is betting on that the new ip to become the new money cow they can milk dry and they decide remove some competition from by removing ME from the stage for a while just in case the new IP becomes really popular with fans.
Yeah I know it makes no sense, but EA do some weird decisions sometimes like putting Tintanfall 2 in between Call of Duty and Battfield for no reason.

[Alienmorph]

I could see them being desperate and dumb enough to finally make that First Contact War game that they planned originally to make after ME3.

As an alternative, an extremely remastered version of the original trilogy, with an ending that leaves room for new stories and characers to happen in the Milky Way.

Both however seem rather unlikely as of right now...

[Dragaros]

[Dragaros]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tioItXW-dAY

[Dragaros]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8QnyXIAS6Y

[magnuskn]

They'll get back to it, eventually. But, hopefully, not in the Andromeda galaxy.

Probably reboot or prequel.

I don't see a sequel in the milky way, unless BW either makes a cannon ending (along with some choices) to ME3 or they just forget the ME3 ending all together and just continue like it never happened.

I disagree, although conditionally. If it's still Casey Hudson and Hack Walters at the story helm, you are probably right. If other people make the story decisions, this is a sacred cow which I see just too many people eager to slaughter.

I know there are some people who will vehemently disagree (i.e. Theo), but Andromeda was just a bad setting. The in-story reason to go there was insane and stupid, it has no connection to prior, cherished lore and the Milky Way still has 100 billion star systems to explore.

In a way, I am happy about Andromeda's failure, because it forces the writers to re-evaluate their biases and decisions and showed, decisively IMO, that you can't just transplant an IP to another setting with no emotional connection to what came before and expect people to love it.

Kind of interesting how Dragon Age kept going despite what happened with DA2, while ME is (was?) Bioware's flagship title for the last decade, and gets relegated to a mostly rookie studio. Was DA:I a huge success financially?

DA2 did not have a hugely controversial ending, which pretty much has gone into the history of gaming as the worst video game ending, ever.

[TTTX]

I disagree, although conditionally. If it's still Casey Hudson and Hack Walters at the story helm, you are probably right. If other people make the story decisions, this is a sacred cow which I see just too many people eager to slaughter.

I know there are some people who will vehemently disagree (i.e. Theo), but Andromeda was just a bad setting. The in-story reason to go there was insane and stupid, it has no connection to prior, cherished lore and the Milky Way still has 100 billion star systems to explore.

In a way, I am happy about Andromeda's failure, because it forces the writers to re-evaluate their biases and decisions and showed, decisively IMO, that you can't just transplant an IP to another setting with no emotional connection to what came before and expect people to love it.

Well we can't all agree on everything.

I wouldn't say the setting is bad, more the lack of focus and not really knowing what they were going to do was the major problem and that has been a problem in past BW sequels, the main story of the ME trilogy a pretty good example of it as it doesn't flow very well from game to game, then we have DA2 (although to be fair it had under 2 years of a development cycle which explains why it suffered from a lack of focus through out most of the game) and even DA:I suffers from it too, so I say it's compilation of meddling from EA and BW being a former shell of itself.

Well technically you can, but ME:A trouble behind the scenes pretty much doomed the game from the start and the writers should have done that way before ME:A even existed, simply because it's problem they have had a long time in their sequels.

[Vol]

https://www.gamereactor.eu/news/585563/ ... ss+Effect/

"EA's Executive Vice President Patrick Söderlund was in attendance at Gamescom in Cologne recently, and we couldn't resist talking to the man about all things EA, including Mass Effect: Andromeda. When we asked about his views on the franchise right now, and where it needs to go in the future, he had some very interesting things to say on the matter.

"Well I think, my personal opinion is, I think that the game... I usually don't do this, but this is one of those places where I feel like the game got criticised a little bit more than it deserved," Söderlund said. "I think the game is actually a great game. Yes, we have to acknowledge the fact that there were some things that maybe we could have done better, absolutely, but as a whole, if you go in and you buy the game today with everything that's in it today, I believe that that's a game worth buying, personally."

"So that's the first thing I'll say. The [second] thing I'll say is, for Mass Effect as a franchise, that has such a big fanbase, and you know I've seen people saying 'Oh, EA's not making another Mass Effect'. I see no reason why we shouldn't come back to Mass Effect. Why not? It's a spectacular universe, it's a loved [series], it has a big fanbase, and it's a game that has done a lot for EA and for BioWare.

"What we need to be careful though of is, whenever we bring Mass Effect back again, we have to make sure that we bring it back in a really [relevant] way, and in a fresh, exciting place. That' my job, and that's Casey's [Hudson] job, and BioWare and the Mass Effect team's job, to figure out what that looks like, and that we don't know yet, but we will."

Would you agree that some of the criticism it got was unfair?"

[UNiT]

Ofc It was overblown the memes alone ruined it.

[TTTX]

Would you agree that some of the criticism it got was unfair?"

Considering there have been other games with similar issues and bugs in the past (like the elder scroll series and Fallout series), I say yes some of the criticism was unfair.

[Alienmorph]

Would you agree that some of the criticism it got was unfair?

Yes and no.

Although it's far from being the worst game ever, it has an enormous amount of problems... the technical ones are mostly forgivable given the nighmarish development cycle. But then there's the story, the characters (with a couple exceptions there too), the kind of garbage people they hired to work on those aspects of the game. And then the usual overhyping and releasing a buggy and glitchy mess, with the promise of "fixing it later" that most AAA devs do today and that is something that should really really reaaaally come to an end.

The detractors of the game love/loved to use alot of hyperboles and make dumbass memes out of the game? Yes, welcome to the guddamn Internet. Even good games get that treatment, constantly.

Trying to claim that it was all those people's fault the game failed just prove that who's in charge have not learned a guddamn thing, and this kind of crap will keep happening.

[Someone With Mass]

Of course it was undeserved to a point. All the bandwagoning dumbasses that can't form their own opinions just spread a bad image about the game based on maybe a couple of minutes of gameplay footage. Because as everyone knows, if there a couple of dialogues or cutscenes that are bad, that means the entire game is bad.

But the biggest factor is that this game shoot itself in the foot because of the management. Oh my god, I don't think I've ever heard/seen a game be that poorly managed during its development. Turf wars and mudslinging between studios, telling the teams to scrap months of work simply because some asshat upstairs wanted everyone to change their design tools.

It's a miracle that it came out to begin with.

[Dragaros]

[SciFlyBoy]

Why are they comparing ME:A to GTA V? It's not the same game style, company or genre.Did they expect ME:A to to be the same?

Why don't they put out a SP-DLC and see if people buy it before determining that no one will. Family Guy was cancelled and off air before a million copies of the DVDs were sold and brought the series screaming back to life.

[TLock]

Why are they comparing ME:A to GTA V? It's not the same game style, company or genre.Did they expect ME:A to to be the same?

Why don't they put out a SP-DLC and see if people buy it before determining that no one will. Family Guy was cancelled and off air before a million copies of the DVDs were sold and brought the series screaming back to life.

I can tell you from experience that EA has long given up on single player games. Their main focus is multiplayer with multiplayer DLC, more specifically sports DLC like FIFA points. The amount of money they make from that stuff would make you blush.

Unless there is like a mass movement/highly visible social media campaign, EA will not move a finger for it.

[Dragaros]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtFaPbaVj_k

[Dragaros]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JcY3ARyFto

[Dragaros]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mphEALzDPQ4

[Dragaros]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KOPrw2AQWw

[Dragaros]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5_KZ9uqAlo

[Dragaros]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLWXDLFAMEQ

[Dragaros]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUhP78xQtGk

[Alienmorph]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5_KZ9uqAlo

One: not gonna happen, EA is too dumb for something like this. Thei'll rather let a series die and be forgotten, than keeping it alive for future projects. They straight up said they don't wanna do remakes/remasters.

Two: the original trilogy despite all of its good qualities NEED alot of improvements, if they want to re-release it for a decent price and have people buying it. Even if thei're so stupid to keep the ME3 ending intact, there's the massive bore of ME1 sidequests, and all the stuff that was cut and simplified to get ME3 done mostly on-schedule.

Three: CHANGE THAT FUCKING ENDING. Make it into something that feels less like a kick to the balls, and that leaves an universe where you can still have new stories post-Reapers War without the need to flee several milions of light years away.

But again... like hell any of this will happen.

[UNiT]

I'dd rather they made something new or continue Andromeda than remake the trilogy. I already played it many times. And they will never do a complete remaster as in actually changing things besides upgrading graphics anyway so why even bother when you can just mod it all on PC anyway.

[Alienmorph]

Yes, a remake is something I'd actually not want either. EA being EA they'd add multiplayer and microtransactions to ME1 and 2, and dull and reduce the singleplayer content to make room for that crap.

I think it's either gonna have to be a remaster (which again... not happening) or a reboot or another fast forward xx centuries and make a new game set in Andromeda that ignores almost entirely ME:A.

[SciFlyBoy]

On another run through of ME2, this time as an engineer. Always underestimated the effectiveness of Flashbang Grenades. They are pretty helpful even on hardcore.

[magnuskn]

Okay, I just found out that there is a massive fanfic called Avatar of Victory which crossovers Mass Effect with Avatar/The Legend of Korra. This sounds pretty awesome, but it's a FemShep fic (not my thing) and features a FemShep/Liara romance (Uggggh....), so I don't know if I should get into it. Anybody has read it and can give an opinion?

[Vol]

What was the stereotype from semi-humans towards humans in DA:O? I know "smelly" and "really like dogs" was part of it.

[Mazder]

Okay, I just found out that there is a massive fanfic called Avatar of Victory which crossovers Mass Effect with Avatar/The Legend of Korra. This sounds pretty awesome, but it's a FemShep fic (not my thing) and features a FemShep/Liara romance (Uggggh....), so I don't know if I should get into it. Anybody has read it and can give an opinion?

If you're interested in the premise then try it out.

Or you could let your own opinions of a subjective viewpoint (ME romances) sully your opinion of it before even trying it.
This person might write that romance well.

This is Mr Picky here telling you to bite the bullet and try it.

[Dragaros]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rts8ne2dx6E

[Dragaros]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDurybUmiPI

[magnuskn]

Okay, I just found out that there is a massive fanfic called Avatar of Victory which crossovers Mass Effect with Avatar/The Legend of Korra. This sounds pretty awesome, but it's a FemShep fic (not my thing) and features a FemShep/Liara romance (Uggggh....), so I don't know if I should get into it. Anybody has read it and can give an opinion?

If you're interested in the premise then try it out.

Or you could let your own opinions of a subjective viewpoint (ME romances) sully your opinion of it before even trying it.
This person might write that romance well.

This is Mr Picky here telling you to bite the bullet and try it.

Alright, alright. It's on The List. :p

[Dragaros]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYjCGSLX8VE

[Dragaros]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUVxYlH5Xgs

[Dragaros]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXx5jdYcbpk

[Dragaros]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkdXz1Ot4FQ

[Dragaros]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZM_GQAImmFo

[SciFlyBoy]

Today's my Friday and I'm bummed from my week. Think I'll buy a burrito and play gold matches in Multiplayer tonight. You guys still playing? I think the human Juggernaut is the funnest class to play.

[Dragaros]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LcuUc60wQc