Politics/Slapfights - Ancient history to modern day!

[Mazder]

Oh I wasnt complaining that he had it he worked for it, but I just find it funny his complaining about this when everything is paid for him.

True, but at the same time you don't know what was done to get to that point. Present comfort doesn't erase past troubles and experience of them.

[DarkStorm]

Oh I wasnt complaining that he had it he worked for it, but I just find it funny his complaining about this when everything is paid for him.

True, but at the same time you don't know what was done to get to that point. Present comfort doesn't erase past troubles and experience of them.

Shooting people and hard work Mazder its not hard to imagine.

[Mazder]

Shooting people and hard work Mazder its not hard to imagine.

Oh, so you've been shadowing him for every second of his life?
Because if not I don't think you can say you know for a certainty what the entirety of his past has or has not been.
I, for one, can't remember a single instance of Mobius ever admitting he's actually shot anyone. Trained to, yeah, but not actually done so.

Also I don't see how it's somehow odd for someone having done the hard graft and is getting what is essentially the military's version of "company perks" to recognize where things would be even harder for someone who would not get what they're currently getting. Especially when they've lready gon through shit to get to where they're at now.

[DarkStorm]

Shooting people and hard work Mazder its not hard to imagine.

Oh, so you've been shadowing him for every second of his life?
Because if not I don't think you can say you know for a certainty what the entirety of his past has or has not been.
I, for one, can't remember a single instance of Mobius ever admitting he's actually shot anyone. Trained to, yeah, but not actually done so.

Also I don't see how it's somehow odd for someone having done the hard graft and is getting what is essentially the military's version of "company perks" to recognize where things would be even harder for someone who would not get what they're currently getting. Especially when they've lready gon through shit to get to where they're at now.

One, I was doing a generalization, calm your tits. Second, I wasn't complaining he had the GI bill he worked for it, calm your tits a second time.

[Mazder]

One, I was doing a generalization, calm your tits. Second, I wasn't complaining he had the GI bill he worked for it, calm your tits a second time.

Ah okay. was generalizations.
Tits are calm, just didn't know you weren't actually referring to him alone.

You do however have some issue with him talking about something whilst he has the GI Bill. That I am confused by, but I'll let it go.

[Mobius_118]

Just because I'm taken care of doesn't mean I don't give a shit about those who have to struggle. And getting behind on a 400 dollar monthly payment is easy to do. Taking away someone's drivers license because of it basically shoots them in the foot. There's no justifying it.

I have options that civilians don't. I think civilians should have better protections when they're getting a formal education, and while in the process of repayment of student loans.

Also, with the amount of financial damage the GOP tax scam will do, it could pay for every single student loan debt in the country, and have plenty left over. But that's considered communism, so the real regressives like libertarians and conservatives throw a shitfit over it.

[FrozenShadow]

Oh, look, Trump does horrible things again. You could make some real sketch shows of all the stupid things Trump had done or said.

Latest one of this list is Trump's decision to move US embassy from Tel Avi to Jerusalem. What makes it all worse, is Trump's decision to formally recognize Jerusalem as new capital of Israel. If this is not bad enough, Trump made this foreign policy decision, something that could potentially start a yet another war at Middle East, just to look like he could get at least one of his promises done. Basically just domestic policy decision at the stake of the world wide politics.

Just...... *shakes head*

[Mobius_118]

Oh don't worry, his continued screwing of the American people is boundless. Now thankfully the madness was stemmed a bit, but trump is actively trying to kill off homeless veterans by taking away VA benefits that at least try to help them. For now that plan is put on hold, but much like net neutrality, medicare, social security, and every good thing we have, he'll keep trying to cut it because rich people need tax breaks.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

Oh, look, Trump does horrible things again. You could make some real sketch shows of all the stupid things Trump had done or said.

Latest one of this list is Trump's decision to move US embassy from Tel Avi to Jerusalem. What makes it all worse, is Trump's decision to formally recognize Jerusalem as new capital of Israel. If this is not bad enough, Trump made this foreign policy decision, something that could potentially start a yet another war at Middle East, just to look like he could get at least one of his promises done. Basically just domestic policy decision at the stake of the world wide politics.

Just...... *shakes head*

Kek.

Those savages will bomb people for any reason. The "Peace process" is a joke and everyone knows it.

Jerusalem has been the capital of Israel ever since they reclaimed the whole thing. It's beyond stupid that the world continues to try and deny that fact.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerusalem_Embassy_Act

Hahahahaha.

Guess the year Mobius.

[Mobius_118]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerusalem_Embassy_Act

Hahahahaha.

Guess the year Mobius.

I didn't even bring that up.

Wasn't going to, either. Israel isn't important to me, I'm not up in arms about it.

So...you want to continue being a fucking loser like ya boi?

Rhetorical question.

By the way, it was an infringement on a foreign nation's policy. Something the US used to actually abide by. Now, not so much. World opinion of the US has been nose-diving since trump lost the election buy got it anyway. This is just one more stupid fucking thing he's done to add to the pile.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

Uh huh. Whatever gets you through the night darling.

[Mobius_118]

When you actually have something to be proud of that ya boi has done that isn't a massive fuck you to the country and the world, then you can talk.

Until then, keep being the little maggot libertarian you are.

[Mobius_118]

Germany no longer recognizes the US as a superpower.

Germany also thinks we're more of a threat than North Korea.

Real fuckin' proud to be an American at this time.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

HAHAHAHHA.

>Germany

>Denounce

>Fucking Germany

[Mobius_118]

Leader of the free world now.

You can thank trump for making the US irrelevant.

Aren't you proud of ya boi?

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

Leader of the free world now.

You can thank trump for making the US irrelevant.

Aren't you proud of ya boi?

You stupid shit. Germany is never and WILL never be the leader of the Free World. Just because your outrage cult wants it to be true doesn't make it so.

But Mobius darling I fully support you renouncing your citizenship and leaving for the paradise that is Germany. Go. Go and live your life as best you can in a country that swallows Soros dick as hard as you do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INBza-0Jfz4

[Mobius_118]

The only stupid shit here is you, so blindly sucking on trumps dick like it's going out of style.

You support a confessed sexual predator, someone who is rapidly turning this great nation into a Kleptocracy. He's also a fan of Roy Moore, a pedophile. It doesn't surprise me to know that you're just as fucked up as they are. You're the kind of asshole to fuck someone's wife, tape it, and post it online for laughs.

It's like watching a car wreck in slow motion, and you're cheering it on like a deranged NASCAR fan.

[Mazder]

Germany step the fuck down.
You need to deal with the UK before you can even consider taking on the US in morality and "OMG DANGERS".

I am pretty sure if we give Europe enough shit we could get at least Norway, Ireland and, as unlikely as it sounds, France, to all put you in EU red tape legislation Hell before you can even turn on the news to see if America has even reacted to your terrible attempt at grandstanding.

Mind you Trump also retweeted a small fringe nationalism group from the UK recently-ish so it's swings and roundabouts.

Also in other news the UK is currently kinda on the same standing/operational status as Norway is to the EU now.
So....yeah, one teensy step towards Brexit actually happening.

[TLock]

Not to sound like a douche, but Germany not considering the US as a superpower sound like a fluff piece. I would even so far as go as doubt that statement. Militarily speaking the US outnumbers Germany by at least 5 to 1.

Doubt Germany can step up any time soon considering the mess they are in politically as well as the issue with Brexit happening at the moment. The latter still being more volatile then the former. Headway was done today, but I am sure something will happen on Bori's camp that will push things back.

[Mazder]

Not to sound like a douche, but Germany not considering the US as a superpower sound like a fluff piece. I would even so far as go as doubt that statement. Militarily speaking the US outnumbers Germany by at least 5 to 1.

Doubt Germany can step up any time soon considering the mess they are in politically as well as the issue with Brexit happening at the moment. The latter still being more volatile then the former. Headway was done today, but I am sure something will happen on Bori's camp that will push things back.

If Germany started it's BS and push came to shove it WAS a war, as unlikely as that is, which side do you think the UK would be on, Europe or US?

[DarkStorm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cf5w6LGrMk0

[TLock]

If Germany started it's BS and push came to shove it WAS a war, as unlikely as that is, which side do you think the UK would be on, Europe or US?

I would say they would do the smart thing and stick out of it. I know the rest of Europe would. At the very least the EU would tell Germany to calm their tits and stop the escalation.

Though if the US fired the first shots, I think the UK would join Europe. Though this would depend on how much hate they have to the EU after Brexit.

The fact is that militarily speaking no one European country can go against the US, and no European country would want to. In terms of assets all European army, navy and airforce branches are under funded and operate on outdated hardware. A recent report by the UK military said that current army assets are at least 20 years behind compared to other superpowers.

As it stands only 2 other countries can hope to fend off the American militarily. China (Massive numbers, rapidly modernizing and has nuclear assets though less than the US and Russia) and Russia (they got the nukes and people though not the best equipped).

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

The only stupid shit here is you, so blindly sucking on trumps dick like it's going out of style.

You support a confessed sexual predator, someone who is rapidly turning this great nation into a Kleptocracy. He's also a fan of Roy Moore, a pedophile. It doesn't surprise me to know that you're just as fucked up as they are. You're the kind of asshole to fuck someone's wife, tape it, and post it online for laughs.

It's like watching a car wreck in slow motion, and you're cheering it on like a deranged NASCAR fan.

Have you gotten any job offers from MSNBC or CNN? They'd almost certainly cream their pants at the thought of you.

A rabidly socialist ex soldier with a hard dick for big government and globalism that believes every single narrative they shit out.

[Vol]

Superpower isn't a popularity contest that people vote on. It's a measure of power over the planet. People talking without saying any, a soundbyte, but in practical terms, Germany is nothing. The entire EU, combined, is still weaker than the US. Even China isn't shit. Their economy is massive, sure, but how far can they project their force? Could they strongarm first world nations into joining them in a foreverwar in the Middle East?

[Mobius_118]

Talking about political influence, but I see people here are willing to use our military men and women as tools to exact the might of a nation.

It seems Roosevelt's "Speak softly and carry a big stick" philosophy isn't held in high regard by trump and his ilk. We're just swinging the big stick and pissing off our allies.

We're going to find ourselves very alone very soon. Isolationist cunts love it, progressives not so much.

Facts don't matter here, though. Clearly. My experience, scientific fact, actual history, none of that shit matters in the face of memefags.

[TLock]

Superpower isn't a popularity contest that people vote on. It's a measure of power over the planet. People talking without saying any, a soundbyte, but in practical terms, Germany is nothing. The entire EU, combined, is still weaker than the US. Even China isn't shit. Their economy is massive, sure, but how far can they project their force? Could they strongarm first world nations into joining them in a foreverwar in the Middle East?

I would sat all of Europe combined would prove an obstacle. As for China, if they really wanted they can put their economic might to force other countries to do their bidding. The South China sea issue comes to mind. I see the US complaining and flexing their naval muscle, but thats pretty much it. As for military, give China a couple of years and they will not be far off from the US.

[DarkStorm]

An obstacle, which basically means it can get bulldozed.

[TLock]

An obstacle, which basically means it can get bulldozed.

Very true, though at a prize. I am sure that the casualty list would be quite heavy, on both sides. More so after time, considering the guerrilla warfare that will ensue should the US win.

Not mentioning, should America ever declare war against Europe/EU, Russia will most likely side with Europe. As much as they hate us Europeans, they hate having more American influence on their boarders even more.

China would just laugh as they gobble up all of Asia as the western world dies off...But this is just hypothetical.

[FrozenShadow]

Not to sound like a douche, but Germany not considering the US as a superpower sound like a fluff piece. I would even so far as go as doubt that statement. Militarily speaking the US outnumbers Germany by at least 5 to 1.

Doubt Germany can step up any time soon considering the mess they are in politically as well as the issue with Brexit happening at the moment. The latter still being more volatile then the former. Headway was done today, but I am sure something will happen on Bori's camp that will push things back.

And you're right to doubt that statement. As matter of fact, after reading multiple sources of this particular news, not once it was implied that US ain't superpower anymore. What Germany is saying that they can't trust US to show a direction anymore and look a another path of their own or more with other European countries.

It's also rather wise decision. As long as Trump is president, you really can't trust US to show a direction, at anything. This latest Israel embassy debacle being latest reminder of it. I mean, how can you trust head of state, who does decisions based on his/hers whimsical desires without listening even his own government? Most of Trump cabinet warned Trump of this move, but the man obviously didn't listen....and this wasn't the first time.

[TTTX]

And you're right to doubt that statement. As matter of fact, after reading multiple sources of this particular news, not once it was implied that US ain't superpower anymore. What Germany is saying that they can't trust US to show a direction anymore and look a another path of their own or more with other European countries.

It's also rather wise decision. As long as Trump is president, you really can't trust US to show a direction, at anything. This latest Israel embassy debacle being latest reminder of it. I mean, how can you trust head of state, who does decisions based on his/hers whimsical desires without listening even his own government? Most of Trump cabinet warned Trump of this move, but the man obviously didn't listen....and this wasn't the first time.

to be fair, he isn't the first president or leader to not listen to their own government.

[Mazder]

Talking about political influence, but I see people here are willing to use our military men and women as tools to exact the might of a nation.

It seems Roosevelt's "Speak softly and carry a big stick" philosophy isn't held in high regard by trump and his ilk. We're just swinging the big stick and pissing off our allies.

We're going to find ourselves very alone very soon. Isolationist cunts love it, progressives not so much.

Facts don't matter here, though. Clearly. My experience, scientific fact, actual history, none of that shit matters in the face of memefags.

Um, that philosophy of using your military might to support your influence over everything else has been used since, at least, Vietnam. ,aybe a little before and Vietnam reigned that in for a little bit.
America has always been seen as...well this image;

when it comes to military might and policy.
You'd like to imagine the Roosevelt method but in reality America acts like "Yell at everyone whilst swinging a massive stick whilst also wanting everyone else to also do their bit, and then proceeds to swing all their sticks as well."

[TLock]

Talking about political influence, but I see people here are willing to use our military men and women as tools to exact the might of a nation.

It seems Roosevelt's "Speak softly and carry a big stick" philosophy isn't held in high regard by trump and his ilk. We're just swinging the big stick and pissing off our allies.

We're going to find ourselves very alone very soon. Isolationist cunts love it, progressives not so much.

Facts don't matter here, though. Clearly. My experience, scientific fact, actual history, none of that shit matters in the face of memefags.

Um, that philosophy of using your military might to support your influence over everything else has been used since, at least, Vietnam. ,aybe a little before and Vietnam reigned that in for a little bit.
America has always been seen as...well this image;
*snip*
when it comes to military might and policy.
You'd like to imagine the Roosevelt method but in reality America acts like "Yell at everyone whilst swinging a massive stick whilst also wanting everyone else to also do their bit, and then proceeds to swing all their sticks as well."

In all fairness most superpowers throughout history flexed their muscles to make "requests". The British Empire did it, the Spanish Empire, the Roman Empire and many other world powers. America is an easy target because it is recent history, and most of its policies have been "We first then the rest".
Trumps "isolationist" stance is not something superbly new, just a more harsher stance than what the US had before.

When people bring the statement "but X country is using its might to force Y to do something.", I just say that is politics in general. I then mention the next few lines "Political Powers grows from the barrel of a gun" and "it is easier to ask for forgiveness than permission"

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

Not to sound like a douche, but Germany not considering the US as a superpower sound like a fluff piece. I would even so far as go as doubt that statement. Militarily speaking the US outnumbers Germany by at least 5 to 1.

Doubt Germany can step up any time soon considering the mess they are in politically as well as the issue with Brexit happening at the moment. The latter still being more volatile then the former. Headway was done today, but I am sure something will happen on Bori's camp that will push things back.

And you're right to doubt that statement. As matter of fact, after reading multiple sources of this particular news, not once it was implied that US ain't superpower anymore. What Germany is saying that they can't trust US to show a direction anymore and look a another path of their own or more with other European countries.

It's also rather wise decision. As long as Trump is president, you really can't trust US to show a direction, at anything. This latest Israel embassy debacle being latest reminder of it. I mean, how can you trust head of state, who does decisions based on his/hers whimsical desires without listening even his own government? Most of Trump cabinet warned Trump of this move, but the man obviously didn't listen....and this wasn't the first time.

Stuuupid shits. Congress voted to recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel in the fucking 90's. And has continued to support it ever since.

Including earlier this year. Clinton, George W, and Obama just ignored what Congress wanted in the matter.

Are people really so fucked in the head that recognizing a basic truth of a situation is in some way scandalous? It's been their capital for YEARS the Palestinians are going to continue murdering people for their backwards death cult. The only thing that changes in this is that we're not continuing to lie to coddle the feelings of violent barbarians half a world away.

[FrozenShadow]

Stuuupid shits. Congress voted to recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel in the fucking 90's. And has continued to support it ever since.

Including earlier this year. Clinton, George W, and Obama just ignored what Congress wanted in the matter.

Are people really so fucked in the head that recognizing a basic truth of a situation is in some way scandalous? It's been their capital for YEARS the Palestinians are going to continue murdering people for their backwards death cult. The only thing that changes in this is that we're not continuing to lie to coddle the feelings of violent barbarians half a world away.

And yet, US had kept its embassy at Tel Aviv. So, whatever Congress might have voted, didn't matter in worldwide politics. But now that US had so publicly changed its stance, it's a huge deal. Not only this Trump's statement is foreign policy mess (already hundreds of injured people in that area), what Trump did, was effectively intervening with sovereignty of foreign country. No matter, if Israel welcomed this change or not.

As matter of fact, this kind of policy is really damn dangerous. What Trump did, would be same thing, if Duma and then Putin would state tomorrow, that they move their Ukraine embassy from Kiev to Donetsk area and that Ukraine's new capital is on that area. You can bet, it would cause huge worldwide objection. Hell, by going with this, Canada could state tomorrow that they move their embassy to Topeka for example and make that US new capital. This is what Trump did.

What comes to latter part, if we go with that argument, you're basically saying that people should just accept the fact that Jerusalem had been Israel capital for ages. But, in the same way people should also accept that Trump is unfit to continue as a president as there is evidence to support this. And before you object, it's virtually exactly same thing. Yet, it's obvious that people supporting Trump won't accept this or see it. The same way as most of the world won't accept this Israel embassy debacle. So, guess there are indeed lots of people fucked it the head indeed.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

Stuuupid shits. Congress voted to recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel in the fucking 90's. And has continued to support it ever since.

Including earlier this year. Clinton, George W, and Obama just ignored what Congress wanted in the matter.

Are people really so fucked in the head that recognizing a basic truth of a situation is in some way scandalous? It's been their capital for YEARS the Palestinians are going to continue murdering people for their backwards death cult. The only thing that changes in this is that we're not continuing to lie to coddle the feelings of violent barbarians half a world away.

And yet, US had kept its embassy at Tel Aviv. So, whatever Congress might have voted, didn't matter in worldwide politics. But now that US had so publicly changed its stance, it's a huge deal. Not only this Trump's statement is foreign policy mess (already hundreds of injured people in that area), what Trump did, was effectively intervening with sovereignty of foreign country. No matter, if Israel welcomed this change or not.

As matter of fact, this kind of policy is really damn dangerous. What Trump did, would be same thing, if Duma and then Putin would state tomorrow, that they move their Ukraine embassy from Kiev to Donetsk area and that Ukraine's new capital is on that area. You can bet, it would cause huge worldwide objection. Hell, by going with this, Canada could state tomorrow that they move their embassy to Topeka for example and make that US new capital. This is what Trump did.

What comes to latter part, if we go with that argument, you're basically saying that people should just accept the fact that Jerusalem had been Israel capital for ages. But, in the same way people should also accept that Trump is unfit to continue as a president as there is evidence to support this. And before you object, it's virtually exactly same thing. Yet, it's obvious that people supporting Trump won't accept this or see it. The same way as most of the world won't accept this Israel embassy debacle. So, guess there are indeed lots of people fucked it the head indeed.

No. Israel has been pretty up front that its capital is Jerusalem. It's why their leadership is stoked that the Americans are cognizant of that fact.

That retarded regressives like Mobius and hopelessly cucked Europeans are going to shriek about that being problematic is immaterial. You are no longer capable of accurately modeling reality. It's sad for some. Fucking hilarious for me.

Outrage and retardation. It's all the Left has left.

The US recognizing Jerusalem as the capital of Israel is not forcing them to change their capital you stupid shit. The Israelis have claimed it as theirs ever since they crushed it in the 6 day war. Holy fucking shit.

[TLock]

No. Israel has been pretty up front that its capital is Jerusalem. It's why their leadership is stoked that the Americans are cognizant of that fact.

That retarded regressives like Mobius and hopelessly cucked Europeans are going to shriek about that being problematic is immaterial. You are no longer capable of accurately modeling reality. It's sad for some. Fucking hilarious for me.

Outrage and retardation. It's all the Left has left.

The US recognizing Jerusalem as the capital of Israel is not forcing them to change their capital you stupid shit. The Israelis have claimed it as theirs ever since they crushed it in the 6 day war. Holy fucking shit.

Be as it may, what Trump did has set a new paradigm shift in peace talks between Israel and Palestine. America can no longer be counted as an impartial member, not that it ever truly was, and this is gonna feed the anti-america sentiment.

The whole Israeli Palestinian conflict has no easy fix to it, and there is a lot of self interest in this area of the world. Taking a clear side in this situation is not something that helps fix the situation.

In my ideal world, if I could, I would just make them agree to have a single co-run government.

[Mobius_118]

I like how someone with an actual intelligence brief is considered retarded while some armchair memefag who gets his news from Infowars considers himself to be the end all to be all on everything.

GAC, you always disappoint me. Go apologize to the trees for the oxygen you're stealing.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

I like how someone with an actual intelligence brief is considered retarded while some armchair memefag who gets his news from Infowars considers himself to be the end all to be all on everything.

GAC, you always disappoint me. Go apologize to the trees for the oxygen you're stealing.

I don't actually watch Infowars Mobius.

I definitely consider myself better read than you though. You seem to know jack and shit of the philosophical underpinnings of your... movement.

[Mobius_118]

Well when command says trumps stance on isolating and fucking over the United States is a stupid fucking thing to do, I'm going to continue to regard you as a fucking moron.

You're not doing much to show anything else. You know so little for being so sure of yourself.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjZdOujIa-s

[Mobius_118]

Well, let's hope Alabama doesn't elect a child molester.

[Vol]

Results start in about half an hour. No idea how it's going to go, usual pre-results hysteria is abundant wherever I check.

Also Mueller has finished speaking with all the White House staff he's requested to speak with, as per Ty Cobb, and Trump wasn't one of them. Sounds like the investigation is wrapping up, one way or another.

[Mobius_118]

Doug Jones won the Senate seat in Alabama.

Finally, a little good news.

[Vol]

The GOP is relieved; few more seats flip, they can stop pretending like they were ever going to govern.

[Mobius_118]

At this point they weren't even pretending to serve the people. It was just a cash grab.

You, me, every American in this forum? We'll never benefit from their schemes. Our financial and living situations will in fact get worse.

[Vol]

I was saying that back after the election, that the GOP wasn't going to be much use in getting anything done. Lo and behold, they sabotaged themselves to ensure it. Same shit would've happened if Bernie would've won, mind you.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

I was saying that back after the election, that the GOP wasn't going to be much use in getting anything done. Lo and behold, they sabotaged themselves to ensure it. Same shit would've happened if Bernie would've won, mind you.

Honestly it would have been worse. Sanders lacks backbone. He proved as much time and again during and after the Primaries.

[Vol]

Honestly it would have been worse. Sanders lacks backbone. He proved as much time and again during and after the Primaries.

Oh he would've gotten absolutely nothing through Congress or the SC. The Neo-McCarthyism is bad enough, but other way around, wall to wall, "Comrade President Sanders wants to raise taxes massively to fund gulag program to reform thought criminals? We'll tell you more at 7!"

Nothing would get done, but for maybe patching up Obamacare with more money.

[Mobius_118]

Today they're voting to repeal Net Neutrality. Better pray to whatever god that they don't. We'll lose much of our ability to communicate freely across the internet.

Honestly it would have been worse. Sanders lacks backbone. He proved as much time and again during and after the Primaries.

Honestly, you have no idea what you're talking about.

If your idea of a strong leader is that dickless shitbag trump, then you need your head examined.