Tali'Thread vas Clan Zorah nar BSN 6.0

[TTTX]

Oh. Bummer.

I wish more people would see ME as a Nazi.

Wait you are telling you aren't a Nazi?

I'm SO surprised, like totally, really, not all.

[Someone With Mass]

I'm mad that I don't get any of fellow Swedish/Greek bastard people represented in my video games.

Not really. I couldn't give less of a shit. It adds nothing to the game. I've never understood this whole underrepresented controversy to begin with. People claim that they don't want special treatment, but they want to be paraded like they're the only thing that matters at the same time.

Yes. We know you exist. Now fuck off.

[Sinekein]

I'm mad that I don't get any of fellow Swedish/Greek bastard people represented in my video games.

Not really. I couldn't give less of a shit. It adds nothing to the game. I've never understood this whole underrepresented controversy to begin with. People claim that they don't want special treatment, but they want to be paraded like they're the only thing that matters at the same time.

People who ask for more representation want people who are vaguely like them, not people who are exactly like them. Hence why Black Panther was a success at the US box office, despite featuring African characters, not African-American ones.

They don't specifically ask for people with Nigerian and Jamaican mixed ancestry.

And there is no underrepresentation of, let's say Caucasian-looking heroes in video games. Black women however, are much more rare. Like, in the entire Mass Effect trilogy, which is not short on human characters, the first significant black woman appears in the last DLC for the last entry.

[SciFlyBoy]

I'm mad that I don't get any of fellow Swedish/Greek bastard people represented in my video games.

Not really. I couldn't give less of a shit. It adds nothing to the game. I've never understood this whole underrepresented controversy to begin with. People claim that they don't want special treatment, but they want to be paraded like they're the only thing that matters at the same time.

Yes. We know you exist. Now fuck off.

I don't think it's those people as much as it is people who are upset FOR those people. Like the Ghost in the Shell movie, Asians didn't care while white people made the biggest stink about the white-wash casting.

[Alienmorph]

It speaks volumes of the ego of the people bringing up the issue in the first place, that they think it's impossible to truly enjoy a game or a movie unless in it there's someone who looks or behaves like you to a significant degree. It's like their concept of making something for everyone is turning every piece of media into someone's self-insert fan-fiction.

Movies like Black Panther if anything prove how that mindset is wrong. It clearly made waaay too much money to be something only black people and no public of any other ethnicity went seeying. Even the detractors of it don't seem to give a damn about the fact BP is an african superhero, other than when talking about how much the movie was overhyped because of that factor.

[Sinekein]

It speaks volumes of the ego of the people bringing up the issue in the first place, that they think it's impossible to truly enjoy a game or a movie unless in it there's someone who looks or behaves like you to a significant degree. It's like their concept of making something for everyone is turning every piece of media into someone's self-insert fan-fiction.

It's always easier to judge people from a position you will never experience. White guys have always been everywhere in media. White guys saying that being represented or not is irrelevant, miss the fact that they always have been represented. They don't know what underrepresentation means or feels, and apparently they often assume that it's not a real problem.

It's like born-rich or well-off people saying that money doesn't buy happiness. Maybe it's true, maybe it's not, but they never had to experience life without money, so they're not exactly the right people to comment on what poverty actually is and feels like, or how to behave if you actually are poor.

[TheodoricFriede]

White guys saying that being represented or not is irrelevant, miss the fact that they always have been represented. They don't know what underrepresentation means or feels, and apparently they often assume that it's not a real problem.

What an ironically racist statement.

[Alienmorph]

I see your point. But what's the solution then? You'd prefer to get every piece of pop culture being intrusively and clumsily altered to thick as many "diversity quotas" as possible, like it has happened these last past few years, or get to have your own characters and stories that can stand on their feet and measure up with what's there already? Wouldn't it be better to create new art, new movies, new games etcetera more taylored to non-white audiences, but that can be enjoyed by everyone? Wouldn't that be more enriching and interesting for all of us?

I know I can never completely relate, but I know what I'd prefer.

Also, there's so much more than just the race or the gender into a character that makes it or not relatable. To use your "rich people" example... there's not that many people that are multi-billionaire geniuses, yet we can easily find things to like and relate to into a character like IronMan, because there's so many aspects of his personal history, his character and his struggles that have nothing to do with his race or his social status and just feel human and compelling. And I'm not talking of the crazy superhero shit of course lol

[Mazder]

I mean seriously I wonder why they'd want to be potentially represented as Nazis....

People who want better representation want to avoid stereotypes, and black women are seldom seen as nazis (or pseudo-nazis) in fiction.

While true it's a game about ww2. And they're in German uniforms. Anyone in a German uniform during ww2 was probably(and that's me being kind to conscripts) a Nazi.
I still don't see why they'd want this representation even to avoid stereotypes.
I mean even if there were some they'd still be Nazis. That trumps any representation needs/wants IMO.

People who ask for more representation want people who are vaguely like them, not people who are exactly like them. Hence why Black Panther was a success at the US box office, despite featuring African characters, not African-American ones.

They don't specifically ask for people with Nigerian and Jamaican mixed ancestry.

And there is no underrepresentation of, let's say Caucasian-looking heroes in video games. Black women however, are much more rare. Like, in the entire Mass Effect trilogy, which is not short on human characters, the first significant black woman appears in the last DLC for the last entry.

While there is an under-representation of black/PoC that does the MOST damage but when they're showhorned in or misrepresented in the poorly written/creation way.
Like, a bad character gets remembered more than a boring one but not for any good reason.

I think applying the "flipped test" and seeing if it's still pointless/petty is still a decent marker for if it is or not.

[Raga]

I think applying the "flipped test" and seeing if it's still pointless/petty is still a decent marker for if it is or not.

The flipped test?

[Raga]

Part of the issue is with changing pre-existing things and I think the more "classic" the thing is, the more egregious the perceived blow is. Take something like LotR for example and say they insisted that Aragorn was played by a non-white guy and that Frodo and Sam are really gay lovers. The implication with this *isn't* just "we want to make it explicitly clear that *everybody* can enjoy LotR." The implication is also that "this story as it was was defective, not good enough, and the only conscionable way to adapt this is to fix its defects" which can't help but also have the built in implication of "And if you failed to notice the defects or protest fixing them, you must be a bigot."

[Raga]

It looks like Florence weakened to a category 2 which is good.

[TheodoricFriede]

Early Musings on MGS3.

HOLY SHIT I HAVE CAMERA CONTROL!!!

[Sinekein]

What an ironically racist statement.

Sure dude. It's racist to point out that white guys overall had it better than guys of all other ethnicities in the last few centuries. Right.

I see your point. But what's the solution then? You'd prefer to get every piece of pop culture being intrusively and clumsily altered to thick as many "diversity quotas" as possible, like it has happened these last past few years, or get to have your own characters and stories that can stand on their feet and measure up with what's there already?

That is a rhetorical question, but no, I do not support random changes to please people who want more diversity. However, I think that it is perfectly fine to mention how diverse a good show or game is. The Mass Effect trilogy is absolutely great overall, and representation-wise, it is also very good, especially as it touches on a number of interesting social themes, albeit in a metaphorical way. So it should be possible to say that Mass Effect is a great game that stands apart from other greats because, on top of being excellent, it also features diverse characters.

Nowadays, as soon as a mention is made of a character or trait who seems to "appeal to diversity", it is automatically assumed that it's to score some morality points and to pander towards that audience. Even if the game is actually great, like The Last of Us, or The Walking Dead. And you get a clusterfuck of kneejerk reactions with a mix of words such as "liberals", "SJW" thrown in the mix. No matter what the actual quality of the game is, you have these reactions. Even if the game has not been released yet - and as such, it is impossible to say whether said diverse character is actually there for a very good reason, or if it is indeed a marketing ploy to try and hide obvious flaws - you already have shitstorms raging.

It is the same with movies or TV shows. You take a show like Orphan Black, it's 300% progressive, most of the characters are women, you have a prominent lesbian romance, a male trans character, a diverse cast, it touches upon themes such as sexual abuse or abusive relationships, and it's absolutely great. Then you have the Ghostbusters remake. Both are "shows made for progressives", except one is an empty shell, while the other as you said has "characters and stories that can stand on their feet and measure up with what's there already".

"SJW" in particular is an insult that particularly annoys me because it has become all-encompassing as of late for anyone who ever showed support to inclusion or diversity, no matter the actual thoughts. Like, I am pretty sure I fall under that category. However, to go back to a recent theme, I found the attacks against Ruby Rose being cast as Batwoman horrifying in their stupidity. Yet those people who attacked her were also "SJW". I also disagree with SJW who said that Luke Cage was a bourgeois and politically correct version of a black superhero.

Wouldn't it be better to create new art, new movies, new games etcetera more taylored to non-white audiences, but that can be enjoyed by everyone? Wouldn't that be more enriching and interesting for all of us?

That's actually a major point of debate within the so-called "SJWs", and there is no actual agreement. Some want Asian communities, Latino communities, African-American communities (to stay in the US) to have "their own shows" with their own codes and culture being properly represented. So, basically, they want more Luke Cages or Black Lightnings. Others want their shows to be diverse to represent multiculturality. So basically, they want more Brooklyn 99s.

I lean more towards the latter, because I like to see characters that are as different from me as humanely (or not) possible and because I have always lived in relatively diverse areas of my country - that might be why I loved ME in the first place. But I won't automatically spit on "white shows" like some do. I'd like for medias and art to reach a point where there have been so many diverse settings already that it becomes a non-issue altogether. It's honestly getting real good as of recently, so my "satisfaction point" should soon be reached.

Part of the issue is with changing pre-existing things and I think the more "classic" the thing is, the more egregious the perceived blow is. Take something like LotR for example and say they insisted that Aragorn was played by a non-white guy and that Frodo and Sam are really gay lovers. The implication with this *isn't* just "we want to make it explicitly clear that *everybody* can enjoy LotR." The implication is also that "this story as it was was defective, not good enough, and the only conscionable way to adapt this is to fix its defects" which can't help but also have the built in implication of "And if you failed to notice the defects or protest fixing them, you must be a bigot."

There is no universal rule on what can and can't be changed, it's always in the eye of the beholder. No matter what the change is, you'll have people who support it (and who'll call those who don't bigots), and you'll have people opposed to it (and who'll call those who like it SJW). That's the way "debates" work nowadays, because those are also the people whose opinion will be the most prominently displayed no matter what, whether they are a majority, or a tiny minority. Which makes it seem like, for some, "all movies/shows are trying to enforce a liberal media", and for others, "there is a gigantic resistance to diversity and inclusion".

I don't think either are true, I just think all reactions are now being blown out of proportion, no matter what the actual fact being debated is.

[TheodoricFriede]

What an ironically racist statement.

Sure dude. It's racist to point out that white guys overall had it better than guys of all other ethnicities in the last few centuries. Right.

Sweeping generalities and holding a particular race to a different standard then another does tend to be racist, yes. I'm glad you agree.

[Mazder]

I think applying the "flipped test" and seeing if it's still pointless/petty is still a decent marker for if it is or not.

The flipped test?

Okay the "flipped test" is my own term for it but the concept is if you take a statement that is not necessarily seen as "controversial" by a certain collective, be they a political party or social group, and you flip one word to something they protect/hold up as being pure/untouchable and if the statement sounds malicious to them then it was malicious to begin with.

EG, BLM would claim "#KillAllWhites" to be just a joking matter, but if you flip it to "#KillAllBlacks" it becomes malicious to them.
Antifa would claim that "Bash the Fasc" would be fine to say, but if you said "Bash the Socialist" they'd lose their shit.

Both statements harbour the same meaning and intent when seen alongside one another and it's only n ideology that excuses one, but not the other.

In this example you'd flip the "historical setting/theme".
Expecting great PoC representation in a game about WW2 Europe is about as good expecting a game about the Ghana Empire to have great white representation.
It just seems out of place, even if it'd just be a skin for a MP character.

That's what I mean by he "flipped" test.

[Alienmorph]

In my books an SJW is an extreme liberal who's obsessed with "diversity quotas" and with pissing off the evil white men. I do not think every pro-diversity liberal qualifies as one of those, becase then I'd be an SJW too. In case it wasn't obvious by the other things I say I am a liberal myself, and trust me when I say that I'm hating every minute of living into what is now one of the most racist countries of the EU. But I'm tired of getting political arguments, especially extremely one-sided ones, into my escapism. It's called escapism for a reason... sure, art is inspired by real life in many ways, but we all need a mental safe space, and it's getting harder and harder to find one. I'm tired of extreme liberals slapping their metaphorical dick in my face and trying to make me feel bad because I was born with a penis and pale skin.

And I don't see why we should choose one way or another in how you rapresent diverse characters. It's good to have stuff like Luke Cage, and it's actually pretty interesting to get shows that dive deeper into different cultures and realities, like I was saying... it's enriching for everyone to get those... but we should also keep making content with people of mixed etnicity of course.

And I am in general against race and genderswapping characters in media... an adaptation of an already exisisting property of course doesn't have to be a verbatum copy-paste of the original, but any change should benefit the story and the overall quality of the work. An example I often use is Arwen being given a bigger role in the Lord of the Rings movies: in the original novels she was just the final prize for Aragorn, and their love story happens completely offscreen. Giving her some characters and some things to do, rather than wasting space and screentime on secondary characters like Glornfindel, was definately a good call. On the other extreme, you have things like raceswapping the Gunslinger in the shitty Dark Tower movie: in the novels he's described as a Clint Eastwood lookalike, and there's a major subplot involving black racist character (it's... complicated, it makes sense in the book) trying to kill him. In the movie he's played by Idris Elba, and the main villain is a pretty white boi in a suit, that might as well be completely made up. That to me seems extremely forced and on the nose, and does nothing to make the story better.

That is the main criteria I use when discussing that kind of stuff... do the changes made to a story make sense, and make it better, or more suited for the format it's being adapted to, or you're just doing it because "there's too many white guys in this story!!!11!!" ?

[Alienmorph]

"flipped" test.

Not so long ago, a black youtuber did an experiment: she took a pile of anti-white SJW tweets, and reposted them replacing "white men" with "jews". They were all taken down because they were considered hatespeech, and rightfully so, because it was shit like "we should exile all the white men underground and let the real people live in peace". But again... no one cared for how hateful and retarded that shit was, when they were against white people.

[Sinekein]

Sweeping generalities and holding a particular race to a different standard then another does tend to be racist, yes. I'm glad you agree.

Racism: Prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.

I mean, it's nice to make your own definition, but do not try to force its meaning on everyone. Saying that an ethnicity suffered more or less than another is not racist, as long as you do not imply said ethnicity deserved it. Neither is saying that one ethnicity is more privileged than another.

Saying that Jews got it worse than Christians or Muslims during WWII is not racist, to take a random example. Saying that black people suffered more than white ones because of the apartheid in South Africa is not racist either. However, saying that now white Afrikaans farmers deserve to die because of the apartheid is racist. Ditto is saying that black South Africans were in their rightful place under the apartheid. Notice the difference?

But I'm tired of getting political arguments, especially extremely one-sided ones, into my escapism. It's called escapism for a reason... sure, art is inspired by real life in many ways, but we all need a mental safe space, and it's getting harder and harder to find one. I'm tired of extreme liberals slapping their metaphorical dick in my face and trying to make me feel bad because I was born with a penis and pale skin.

True, but I can understand why some would like escapism to also be targeted towards them. While there has been an increase in diverse characters in the recent years, I haven't found the drop in white male characters to be noticeable. They are still there, as they've always been. We are not exactly in a shortage situation. This year, Marvel did release Black Panther, but we also got Deadpool and Ant-Man, plus Avengers which features a lot of them.

So I don't really get why it is harder to find safe spaces. Doesn't part of it stem from the fact that the various debates going on automatically discredit some medias or games which aren't nearly as preachy as they actually are when you watch them? If we consider superhero movies and shows, more and more are being made - which means, yes, more and more nonwhite ones, but also more and more white ones, because the increase has been exponential. On TV, there were Luke Cage and Black Lightning, but there's also Legion, Flash, Iron Fist, Arrow, Punisher, Daredevil, the guys from ensemble casts such as Gotham, Legends of Tomorrow or The Gifted...

And I am in general against race and genderswapping characters in media... an adaptation of an already exisisting property of course doesn't have to be a verbatum copy-paste of the original, but any change should benefit the story and the overall quality of the work. An example I often use is Arwen being given a bigger role in the Lord of the Rings movies: in the original novels she was just the final prize for Aragorn, and their love story happens completely offscreen. Giving her some characters and some things to do, rather than wasting space and screentime on secondary characters like Glornfindel, was definately a good call.

The problem in that particular case is public exposure of those characters. If all movies ever created were original materials, then there would be no issue, if you want to create a diverse character, you just do. But a large number of creations today are adaptations in one form or another, and adaptations of works that have for some been created a long time ago, where media in general were not diverse (sometimes thankfully, because there were some horrifyingly racist - in the actual meaning of the word - stereotypes, with characters such as Egg Fu or how Black Manta was originally depicted).

Which means that you either have to hope the audiences will be on board with original stories centered around characters such as Armor, Surge or Katana, to consider Asian superheroines, or they'll be added, but once again as supporting roles, like Mantis in GotG. Studios want to make money, so they'd rather use an already established brand. Especially for superheroes because there have been so many retcons and alternate version of characters that it's basically free publicity for them: if it fails, they can always bring Peter Parker back later on.

Also, studios are mostly being pragmatic. They don't think there are too many white guys in their story, they think they would sell more if there were more nonwhite guys in their story. They do not exact change out of hate of white guys, they just expect to target wider audiences.

[TheodoricFriede]

I mean, it's nice to make your own definition, but do not try to force its meaning on everyone.

If you take a brief gander at the responses you got, I didn't have to 'force' anything on anyone.

[Alienmorph]

The problem in that particular case is public exposure of those characters. If all movies ever created were original materials, then there would be no issue, if you want to create a diverse character, you just do. But a large number of creations today are adaptations in one form or another, and adaptations of works that have for some been created a long time ago, where media in general were not diverse (sometimes thankfully, because there were some horrifyingly racist - in the actual meaning of the word - stereotypes, with characters such as Egg Fu or how Black Manta was originally depicted).

Which means that you either have to hope the audiences will be on board with original stories centered around characters such as Armor, Surge or Katana, to consider Asian superheroines, or they'll be added, but once again as supporting roles, like Mantis in GotG. Studios want to make money, so they'd rather use an already established brand. Especially for superheroes because there have been so many retcons and alternate version of characters that it's basically free publicity for them: if it fails, they can always bring Peter Parker back later on.

That seems more a creative/business problem than a political one. It's not my fault almost nobody has the balls to invest into making new and interesting properties, and instead wants to re-invent the wheel and change already existing stuff for no good reason other than to match the political climate, and then sell it again like it's brand new and shiny. There's a lot of people who want to make the cake and eat it too, without understanding what made the original property work, nor that simply redoing the same thing with just gender/race swapping the main characters doesn't make it automatically good. Ghostbusters ATC and the latest Oceans' Eleven sequel are good examples of that.

(Also Mantis was always asian, btw. She just happened to be half-alien too)

[Sinekein]

If you take a brief gander at the responses you got, I didn't have to 'force' anything on anyone.

I only got yours, since with everyone else I seem to be able interesting and articulate conversations on various topics.

That seems more a creative/business problem than a political one. It's not my fault almost nobody has the balls to invest into making new and interesting properties, and instead wants to re-invent the wheel and change already existing stuff for no good reason other than to match the political climate, and then sell it again like it's brand new and shiny. There's a lot of people who want to make the cake and eat it too, without understanding what made the original property work, nor that simply redoing the same thing with just gender/race swapping the main characters doesn't make it automatically good. Ghostbusters ATC and the latest Oceans' Eleven sequel are good examples of that.

I don't think it's anyone in particular's fault that adaptations work better than original works. Culture usually needs people to pay to get access, and something brand new is by essence unknown. It is always easier to seel something people are already familiar with, as it looks less of a risky gamble.

If you look at the 100 highest grossing movies ever, then you have 2 original works on top (Avatar & Titanic, both from Cameron), and then, unless I am mistaken, you have to go to #34 (Zootopia) to get another movie that is neither an adaptation of an already existing story, or a sequel. Then you have animated movies in #39 (The Lion King, another Disney), #58 (The Secret Life of Pets), #64 (Inside Out), and the next original live movies are on #69 (Inception) and #72 (Independence Day).

Inbetween them, you have an insane truckload of franchise sequels, and comic book or novel adaptations - or both at the same time, like Star Wars TFA and Infinity War in #3 and #4.

Comics in particular are insanely bloated at the moment. You'd need the mother of all genius concepts to manage to get visibility on an original character when you have to compete against 6 Marvel movies and 3 DC ones a year. Plus, as those sequels and/or spinoffs and/or adaptations bring so much cash, they constantly set new heights when it comes to production and visual quality, so even if you have a great idea, you also need a lot of money if you don't want to create something looking like a cheap movie. It basically boils down to realism: it's easier to adapt, and if studios keep making more diverse movies, it's I assume because it works. Even if the Disney execs were the Illuminati of progressivism, if adding diverse casts stopped their franchises to succeed, they would not keep doing it.

But overall, Ghostbusters and Ocean's Eleven at least prove that in the end, the actual quality of the work is what remains. If the movie is good, no matter the changes, it ends up prevailing. There was an outcry because some black actresses were hired to be Amazons in Wonder Woman which was supposedly illogical - nevermind the fact that DC's Amazons are about as far removed from any kind of historical accuracy as one can be without being an alien - but it all died out because the movie simply worked. That's a solace at least.

[TTTX]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSrVPEZApB0&index=10&list=WL

[TheHawkster]

Just got back from my Netherlands travel this week.

It was a lot of fun. Touring Eindhoven and Amsterdam were hell of an experience

[Azint]

I think some of this is banter is better placed in the political debate thread.

[Alienmorph]

True. Personally it's a topic I'm pretty burned out by, but if someone wants to continue, we can do it in the politics thread.

[SciFlyBoy]

Just got back from my Netherlands travel this week.

It was a lot of fun. Touring Eindhoven and Amsterdam were hell of an experience

What was to top food there?

[TheodoricFriede]

I only got yours, since with everyone else I seem to be able interesting and articulate conversations on various topics.

Mostly I just dont find you worth the effort.

[TheodoricFriede]

Just got back from my Netherlands travel this week.

It was a lot of fun. Touring Eindhoven and Amsterdam were hell of an experience

What was to top food there?

In the Netherlands?

Probably weed.

[Dragaros]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRuHg1dv8MI

[Dragaros]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bDODX_UeRc

[Dragaros]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rj1JNsj8PiM

[Alienmorph]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRuHg1dv8MI

Well, that was interesting. Nothing that made me go "OhmyGoooooood", but lots of variety, which is good. SquareEnix pretty much dropped ALL of the Final Fantasy on Switch, except for 8 and 13, which probably won't be missed. The online service seem pretty meh, given the price. And the NES joycons are a cool idea, but waaay overpriced.

Ah,and where's muh Metroid Prime?!

[TheodoricFriede]

Luigis Mansion 3.

That Direct was an A+ three seconds in.

[TheodoricFriede]

Also I'd slit a mans throat to get the vision cones and radar back in Metal Gear Solid 3.

[Alienmorph]

Luigis Mansion 3.

That Direct was an A+ three seconds in.

Was definately one of the best announcements in the Direct, yes. That "papercraft world" Yoshi game looks incredibly cute as well.

[TheHawkster]

Just got back from my Netherlands travel this week.

It was a lot of fun. Touring Eindhoven and Amsterdam were hell of an experience

What was to top food there?

Didn't try their cuisine. But one of the restaurants on Amsterdam Central serves Fish and Chips as a meal. Very delicious

[TheodoricFriede]

So MGS3...

This is the one with the "good" controls, eh?

Interesting theory... When people say "good" to they mean the worst?

[Vol]

Finally killed G'huun. Took two weeks of pugging, with most of it spent with groups that could not kill the boss before him because it required not fucking over the raid by messing up mechanics. Thankfully G'huun was less like that, and a really chill group of guys were leading it. Good leaders. Fun fight, really.

Didn't get any gear, but hey. So that's about the limit of the raiding I'll do, since I'd have to join a guild to go up to Heroic difficulty.

[Dragaros]

Well, that was interesting. Nothing that made me go "OhmyGoooooood", but lots of variety, which is good. SquareEnix pretty much dropped ALL of the Final Fantasy on Switch, except for 8 and 13, which probably won't be missed. The online service seem pretty meh, given the price. And the NES joycons are a cool idea, but waaay overpriced.


Ah,and where's muh Metroid Prime?!

If we get any new info on Metroid Prime 4 this year, it will probably be after Smash Bros is released in early December, I'd wager.

I’m surprised they didn't show any updates for Bayonetta 3.

Agreed to the online/NES joycons.

That Capcom arcade bundle looks fun. Having them all in one package is nice. When was the last time Capcom acknowledged Captain Commando? Been ages.

Nintendo: Hey Nintendo fans, did you miss out on FF7, 9, 10, 10-2, & 12 because you went with N64 and Gamecube over PS1 and PS2 back in the day? Surprise!

Animal Crossing, Yoshi, and Luigi's Mansion fans are super happy.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcmDMxHgp_M

[Dragaros]

I'd laugh my ass off if Castlevania's Death was a secret optional boss and Luigi could get some payback for what happened in the last Smash Direct.

[Dragaros]

Best dad

[Dragaros]

"So is this more of a Vegeta Inkling move or a Freezer move?"

[Dragaros]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gcoUYrfq00

[Dragaros]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hj7AiOKJw0w

[Dragaros]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azm6GVX1BTY

[Dragaros]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZNnk1GVCqA

[TheodoricFriede]

The Metal Gear games SO badly just need an option in the menu to "restart room".

Sometimes you blow it, and rather then spend the next 5 minutes trying to recover from an unrecoverable situation, sometimes i just want a do over.

Edit: This game does get some credit, however, for the fact that eventually enemies will stop coming during an alert. Fighting is actually a viable strategy if you get caught.

[TheodoricFriede]

Ok, I'm coming around on MGS3. It has some serious clunkiness, and a weak start, but now that I have a half decent arsenal, I've started having fun.

I just killed The End. I wanted his stuff, so I used a guide. Alas, that killed a lot of the experience.

I kind of wish that non-lethal kills weren't so integral to in-game rewards, because I have a lot more fun when I can just kill dudes. The Fear non-lethal is an absolute nightmare.

[TTTX]

Ok, I'm coming around on MGS3. It has some serious clunkiness, and a weak start, but now that I have a half decent arsenal, I've started having fun.

I just killed The End. I wanted his stuff, so I used a guide. Alas, that killed a lot of the experience.

I kind of wish that non-lethal kills weren't so integral to in-game rewards, because I have a lot more fun when I can just kill dudes. The Fear non-lethal is an absolute nightmare.

it's always good to have a few poison dark frogs rations when fighting the Fear perfect to get him poisoned when he gets hungry and he throws up making lose a lot of stamina.

As for the Non-lethal bit well it's kind like the Dark Soul challenge (which is a terrible comparison) of the MGS games for ME2 and onward, It's can be a pain, but it's durable and if you do it you get rewarded.

Hell you get Stealth camo if you manage to not get a red alert through the entire game.