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Re: Tali'Thread vas Clan Zorah nar BSN 6.0

Postby TheodoricFriede » May 25th, 2018, 4:41 pm

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Its not really necessary to do so.

Registering is mainly useful if you have a particular persona you have come to like, but also want to use it for fusion. You can save the one you had and buy it back. You dont lose anything if you register.

Its also useful for new game plus, as it lets you save the completed persona needed for the tasks Caroline and Justine give you.

(Its also one of the ways people will game the system to make a persona with 99 luck and a skill with a high confuse chance. That basically lets you make infinite money. Its kind of time consuming though, and REALLY useful if you are trying to platinum the game in as short a time as possible.)

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Postby Vol » May 25th, 2018, 5:19 pm

So, apparently, ones lungs can become inflamed, which leads to breathing difficulties, with absolutely no signs of an allergic reaction. And then the body, thinking it's slowly suffocating, as no other symptoms are present, will invent chest pain riiiiiight over the heart, constantly.

$125 at a walk in clinic for some 500 mg Aleves and instructions to take it easy and stay indoors. This is some jive-ass bullshit.

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Postby TTTX » May 25th, 2018, 6:04 pm

Vol wrote:So, apparently, ones lungs can become inflamed, which leads to breathing difficulties, with absolutely no signs of an allergic reaction. And then the body, thinking it's slowly suffocating, as no other symptoms are present, will invent chest pain riiiiiight over the heart, constantly.

$125 at a walk in clinic for some 500 mg Aleves and instructions to take it easy and stay indoors. This is some jive-ass bullshit.

yep life can suck a lot.

Still I hope you get better soon.
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Re: Tali'Thread vas Clan Zorah nar BSN 6.0

Postby Someone With Mass » May 25th, 2018, 6:09 pm

Vol wrote:So, apparently, ones lungs can become inflamed, which leads to breathing difficulties, with absolutely no signs of an allergic reaction. And then the body, thinking it's slowly suffocating, as no other symptoms are present, will invent chest pain riiiiiight over the heart, constantly.

$125 at a walk in clinic for some 500 mg Aleves and instructions to take it easy and stay indoors. This is some jive-ass bullshit.


I know that feeling. My sinuses are so clogged because of pollen allergies that it feels like I'm about to suffocate every time I eat something.
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Postby Vol » May 26th, 2018, 4:12 pm

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Postby Someone With Mass » May 26th, 2018, 5:41 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Biom8iUnCWI

Some people should just be shot in the face with a shotgun for the betterment of mankind.
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Re: Tali'Thread vas Clan Zorah nar BSN 6.0

Postby Deano » May 26th, 2018, 6:39 pm

Don't forget lightbombmike, a current lead BioWare employee.

Chudson handled the first fairly well but was lucky they no longer worked at BioWare, he can't just dodge this one.

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Postby Someone With Mass » May 26th, 2018, 6:47 pm

Deano wrote:Don't forget lightbombmike, a current lead BioWare employee.

Chudson handled the first fairly well but was lucky they no longer worked at BioWare, he can't just dodge this one.


I've seen plenty of people say that they often disagreed with TotalBiscuit, but they still send best of wishes to his family and friends.

Unless the bad things he did outweigh the good, I see little point in changing that. Then again, we are surrounded by special snowflakes with gold sheet-thin skin these days.

Also, if you're going to shit talk someone, at least have the balls to do it when they're alive.
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Postby TheodoricFriede » May 26th, 2018, 7:01 pm

What the hell is it with these people? Jesus Christ at least wait till the body is cold.

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Postby Mazder » May 26th, 2018, 7:12 pm

I don't know if this should eb in the politics thread or not but the main reason a lot of theses assholes are coming out of the woodwork now is mainly because TB can't defend himself on the few points he defended with the big thing they're against him for, which was GamerGate.
It's weird how they can compartmentalize about literally every other facet of existence, but as soon as that mess is brought up if you supported the needs for better actions taken for games journalism you automatically were also a shithead that wanted to stamp out all women and hated any kind of diversity in that field.

And TB really had an eloquent way of dealing with those kinds of cunts who would lumber him in with all the worst during that massive shitshow of a time.
I mean seriously, even the most SJW of progressives would say that the whole GamerGate event was a clusterfuck of many different ideals and "controversies".

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Postby Alienmorph » May 26th, 2018, 7:31 pm

*sighs* Because I really needed MORE reasons for not wanting to buy any more BW game.

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Postby Vol » May 26th, 2018, 7:52 pm

That reminds me of a chapter of Wild Swans, where the family's father (A Chicom official of relatively high rank, veteran of the Long March) died and they have to scramble, beg, and plead to get his state-coordinated funeral upgraded. He made the mistake of writing a latter to Mao during the Cultural Revolution asking him, in very polite and fawning language, to stop the madness, because he knew what would happen but was too principled. Ended up arrested, tortured, sent to gulag, psychologically broken, etc.

So the Party was going to give him a bad funeral, which would fuck up his family's lives and opportunities going forward. So the family got together and called in favors and did everything they could to get it fancier, like more wreaths and a better speech and stuff.

My point being, that tweet sure reads like "He made grave political errors, comrades."

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Re: Tali'Thread vas Clan Zorah nar BSN 6.0

Postby Azint » May 26th, 2018, 8:40 pm

In other news, a werewolf was shot and killed by a rancher.

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Postby Vol » May 26th, 2018, 8:45 pm

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Postby Dragaros » May 26th, 2018, 9:13 pm

Azint wrote:In other news, a werewolf was shot and killed by a rancher.


Get yer silver bullets!

Like some kind of freaky rapid wolf-dog-coyote hybrid.

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Postby SciFlyBoy » May 27th, 2018, 1:48 am

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Postby Alienmorph » May 27th, 2018, 4:56 am

Azint wrote:In other news, a werewolf was shot and killed by a rancher.


It's probably some sort of hybrid, they can occasionally suffer of gigantism because of their wacked genes. It's been the same for example with the so called Hogzilla... we know at least one of those actually was killed and who's tissues were examined, and apparently he was the hybrid of a wild boar and a farm pig escaped and gone wild. This is probably a similar case. Pretty interesting nonetheless... I'm a dog person, but that's a pup I would not like to come across!

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Postby Vol » May 27th, 2018, 9:45 am

Pillars 2: Naval battles need more information up front. I can't tell if boarding or sinking rewards better loot and XP. And the boarding is risky if you're playing a squishy party, because you start it on deck in a random formation, and the enemy will bum rush your backline. Not too hard (so far) but I'd like to know the incentive to fight it out instead of jibing the motherfuckers to death.

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Postby Vol » May 27th, 2018, 6:45 pm

Agony is not getting the uncensored patch that was promised, because of corporate pressure. That's some jive-ass bullshit, I tell you what.

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Postby TheodoricFriede » May 27th, 2018, 6:51 pm

Vol wrote:Agony is not getting the uncensored patch that was promised, because of corporate pressure. That's some jive-ass bullshit, I tell you what.

Boy it would be a shame if all those files leaked somehow...

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Postby Vol » May 27th, 2018, 6:58 pm

Apparently the devs are being warned that if that happens, game's being pulled from platforms, investors pulling out, studio collapse.

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Postby TheodoricFriede » May 27th, 2018, 7:02 pm

Vol wrote:Apparently the devs are being warned that if that happens, game's being pulled from platforms, investors pulling out, studio collapse.

This industry is such a fucking child industry.

All those years I argued games were art, I want back. Games aren't art, they're a product. They somehow manage to turn many pieces of art into a corporate trash heap.

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Postby Someone With Mass » May 27th, 2018, 7:07 pm

I'd say that a game is more a product than art when the developers must meet some company's demands or kiss their jobs goodbye. One of the reasons why I simply don't care about AAA games these days. They're calculated money machines and no more, with very few exceptions.
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Postby Alienmorph » May 27th, 2018, 7:15 pm

The potential for game being art or just honest, enjoyable entertainment is still very much there. It's just that rampant capitalism and bullshit political correctness don't care and just want it done their way.

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Postby TheodoricFriede » May 27th, 2018, 7:32 pm

All I know is that it's shit like this that makes me the least excited for an E3 than I think I have ever been.

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Postby Alienmorph » May 27th, 2018, 8:05 pm

I mostly follow E3 for gallows humor's sake at this point. There's probably gonna be only one or two reveals I actually end up caring about.

Also, considering I followed the last couple E3s through TotalBiscuit's channel... yeah...

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Postby Dragaros » May 27th, 2018, 8:10 pm

Vol wrote:Agony is not getting the uncensored patch that was promised, because of corporate pressure. That's some jive-ass bullshit, I tell you what.


A product for adults… and they think adults can't handle it?

What the hell is in the uncensored patch that is raising such fuss? There have been numerous horror video games released over the decades that feature grisly murder, disturbing imagery, nightmarish visuals, horrific torture, rape, and nudity. Outlast had a psycho, half-naked, partially flayed doctor slowly chop off the player character's hand before their eyes with a rusty saw that had been soaked in a used toilet. In F.E.A.R. 2 the player character gets raped by Alma. There all kinds of fucked up things in the Silent Hill series. There's been so many grotesque and macabre deaths in video games you could fill a dozen library with the accounts. Games that invoke real senses of dread and terror are manifold. Adults were able to handle those just fine. Whats so different about Agony?

I honestly don't know much about Agony and what's going on with this, I haven't kept up with it much, but at first glance, this seems like a terrible business decision thats going to blow up in their faces. Not to mention its a bad precedent with potentially far-reaching consequences. Shouldn't the game creators be allowed to make their vision, let it compete in the market and succeed or fail on its own merits, and if some people don't like it, they're free to move on and find something else to entertain them? Watering down a product to make a grab for a bigger range of customers can be self-destructive in the long run and spoils the artistic integrity. And kowtowing before the altar of political correctness run amok will having you proverbially living on your knees forever, because the goal lines constantly and unpredictably change, and you can never win; you exist and are approved of only at the mercurial mercy of the unforgiving mob.
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Postby Dragaros » May 27th, 2018, 8:11 pm

Alienmorph wrote:I mostly follow E3 for gallows humor's sake at this point. There's probably gonna be only one or two reveals I actually end up caring about.


As long as Metroid Prime 4 and the next Smash Bros are good, that's all I need.
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Postby Alienmorph » May 27th, 2018, 8:20 pm

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Alienmorph wrote:I mostly follow E3 for gallows humor's sake at this point. There's probably gonna be only one or two reveals I actually end up caring about.


As long as Metroid Prime 4 and the next Smash Bros are good, that's all I need.


Yeah. I'm gonna have to buy a Switch if they don't fuck up the next Metroid. I've been telling that's my console seller for years now :P

Other than that, it's mostly semi-indie stuff like the sequel of Ori and the Blind Forest (which is also a Metroidvania lol) I look forward to find more about.

I sure as shit not going to care about the next open world by Ubisoft, or the next FPS by Activision. I might be interested to see what Capcom is bringing to the table, since there's rumors they want to revive some of their abandoned franchises. And I could give a damn about an hypotetic Mortal Kombat XI or an XCOM3 if WB and 2K can avoid being as ferociously cash-grabbing as they promised to be to their investors.

And finally, EA and BW can crawl in a deep dark hole and die instead, as far as I'm concerned.

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Postby Vol » May 27th, 2018, 9:56 pm

Pillars 2, talking with the gods:
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Postby Azint » May 28th, 2018, 5:34 am

I need to comment somewhere about the whole Battlefield V fiasco, and in general the public reaction to things in video games. To put it short and simple: Who gives a shit?

To state it more elaborately; What is the problem here? That there is a woman? That there is a prosthetic arm, and a katana? People are complaining about historical inaccuracy in a video game when the developers have made a lot of statements saying that they actually want to stray from it for the sake of doing something different. I don't even play Battlefield, and I think it's ridiculous. DICE has done a long string of fairly faithful reenactments of different wars, some even in space. But the instant that they put a woman front and center, people cry for blood. I mean, it's not even the strangest part of the whole trailer. There is a lot of ridiculous things going on in Battlefield V, and it looks like they want to have fun with it, because after all, we all need another straight-faced WWII game.

This is a game. They are the authors, and I do believe in auteur license in that the creator of a piece of work is allowed to do whatever they want with it. Tarantino killed Hitler in his WWII movie, and that was given a pass. I will defend DICE's decision to thin out some realism for the sake of fun, considering how many minor inaccuracies Battlefield 1 ran with. Did people forget that many fictional pieces of media in general have this disclaimer about how it is a work of fiction, and not meant to be taken for serious historical value? If DICE was actually trying to tell people that there was a legion of black female Nazis, then they would be lying, but this isn't the case.

Even Yoko Taro, the director of Nier Automata has said that this is absurd. Japanese media has a record of turning literal battleships into these moe-blob waifu things for the sake of entertainment, and they've been getting away with it for however long that has been a thing. It might be a case of realism vs obvious artistic license, but I was never going to take Battlefield that seriously as an article of war documentation.

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Postby Someone With Mass » May 28th, 2018, 5:45 am

I simply didn't like the trailer because it looked like a rejected Michael Bay movie with explosions going off every third second, leaps in physics and asinine logic like jumping into a tank's path. That and the lens flares makes me want strap whoever's having a hard-on for them at DICE and shoot a military-grade laser into their eyes because FUCK, are those annoying.
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Postby TheodoricFriede » May 28th, 2018, 6:01 am

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To state it more elaborately; What is the problem here?


My problem with it is how they will invariably STILL try to sell their story as history accurate and super serious. It also just feels incredibly blatant whenever EA tries to be "Inclusive", because it invariably feels like its not genuine. I see that character and I Imagine three white men in suits, in a boardroom, with a chart, wringing their hands, and saying "Ok, good, this character nets us the Female AND the handicap market. Can we make her black too, or you think that would be too much?"

Also, not prosthetic arm, ROBOT arm. The arm is a goddamned robot arm. It moves on its own, it goes slack when she goes slack. It has tubes and wires all placed strategically to make it clear that she can move it and use it in combat.

As far as games being art, see my earlier comments today. Videogames are fucking toys made by an industry full of children.

All that said, I dont actually even have a dog in this race, and I certainly dont care about this past looking at the trailer and going "Oh fuck off EA" when I see a robot arm in a WW2 game. You couldn't pay me to play this game if it was the most realistic WW2 game imaginable.

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the post is over, stop reading and move on.

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Postby Mazder » May 28th, 2018, 11:25 am

Azint wrote:I need to comment somewhere about the whole Battlefield V fiasco, and in general the public reaction to things in video games. To put it short and simple: Who gives a shit?

To state it more elaborately; What is the problem here? That there is a woman? That there is a prosthetic arm, and a katana? People are complaining about historical inaccuracy in a video game when the developers have made a lot of statements saying that they actually want to stray from it for the sake of doing something different. I don't even play Battlefield, and I think it's ridiculous. DICE has done a long string of fairly faithful reenactments of different wars, some even in space. But the instant that they put a woman front and center, people cry for blood. I mean, it's not even the strangest part of the whole trailer. There is a lot of ridiculous things going on in Battlefield V, and it looks like they want to have fun with it, because after all, we all need another straight-faced WWII game.

This is a game. They are the authors, and I do believe in auteur license in that the creator of a piece of work is allowed to do whatever they want with it. Tarantino killed Hitler in his WWII movie, and that was given a pass. I will defend DICE's decision to thin out some realism for the sake of fun, considering how many minor inaccuracies Battlefield 1 ran with. Did people forget that many fictional pieces of media in general have this disclaimer about how it is a work of fiction, and not meant to be taken for serious historical value? If DICE was actually trying to tell people that there was a legion of black female Nazis, then they would be lying, but this isn't the case.

Even Yoko Taro, the director of Nier Automata has said that this is absurd. Japanese media has a record of turning literal battleships into these moe-blob waifu things for the sake of entertainment, and they've been getting away with it for however long that has been a thing. It might be a case of realism vs obvious artistic license, but I was never going to take Battlefield that seriously as an article of war documentation.

I think the main problem is the way the devs mishandle literal "realism" and "aesthetic realism".
I've been pondering more and more on this lately and it's along the same reasons why if Star Wars or Star trek were made with "real science" when affixed to their science fiction then all the action would be boring as every shot of the exterior of the ships during space battles would be silent.

So when players say "Oh that's not realistic" what they're driving for is "that's not aesthetically realistic". For example the whole "Germany had no Black soldiers because they're from Germany and all white and Aryan pride, blah blah" but when you look into the Africa Korps there are loads of black soldiers. One is "real" and one is "I wouldn't expect this given what I'd expect from the material".
Battlefield's main problem is that they tout a game drenched in realism and history yet also provide a very wild and bombastic experience that resembles fiction rather than realism.
Now with the whole "prosthetic arm woman" thing it's an example of where the aesthetics don't match with the "realism" attempting to be provided.
Yes those prosthetics existed. Yes there were women fighting in WW2. Yes there were some that got injured. The main problem is the Venn Diagram alignment to have all three happening at the same time makes it a rarity. A rarity that would not be represented if thousands of people all have the experience of it, therefore applying the subconscious attributing of playerbase numbers to soldier numbers, which in turn equals "thousands of paraplegic female soldiers" in a subject material where we know that it's a rarity.

But in my opinion the biggest flaw is that the trailer is just the same as when DICE put out a "realistic" experience. Nowhere have I so far seen anyone from DICE actually confirm that this isn't another trailing down the "realWW2 " games path and is more along the lines of "play WW2/fictional game with WW2 backdrop". The trailer appears to take itself as it's game entity as seriously as the serious games did and it has the broader playerbase confused.

TBH they could easily fix it by making it Dieselpunk-lite and the robo-arm would fit slightly more, but the rest of the aesthetic would need to follow.

TL;DR: DICE are touting this game as "actually realistic" when they meant "Aesthetically realistic" and the playerbase is confused and mad as the mishandling makes rare elements in reality seem absurd when taken seriously.


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