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Re: Tali'Thread vas Clan Zorah nar BSN 6.0

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Re: Tali'Thread vas Clan Zorah nar BSN 6.0

Postby Raga » September 25th, 2018, 12:38 pm

Azint wrote:I have an issue with the combat, though.


The combat is my single biggest gripe. I already went on about the persistence of mook fighting which gets really old, but the combat itself isn't really enjoyable. There is an over reliance on Spidey sense which is supposed to signify a dodge. However, there are multiple ways you can get out of the way: leaping away, punching the guy trying to hit you in the face, zipping to another target by web-pulling, web slinging, but no, if you don't push circle for official "dodge" it just doesn't count and you are going to get hit. This is beyond annoying because you are always fighting 6+ guys and it's borderline impossible to just focus on one of them, even ones you need to get rid of quickly who have devastating special attacks or who can only be countered in some specific way (shield guys, brutes). I had a chronic problem of having wounded everybody but having dispatched nobody because I had to keep breaking off combos to dodge.

Spidey-himself feels somewhat stuck to the ground, unlike Batman who can make great leaps with a feeling of momentum.


Yea, and they really, really *want* you to use "aerial combat" because it generates focus faster and there are various moves designed to snatch an enemy into aerial combat. But it's so tedious and unreliable to implement that after a few fights of trying, I just gave up and committed to street level brawling.

Also, too much reliance on pressure sensitivity on buttons, tap versus hold down for various critical moves. Ain't nobody got time for that.

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Re: Tali'Thread vas Clan Zorah nar BSN 6.0

Postby SciFlyBoy » September 25th, 2018, 5:27 pm

@Theo
I finished P5. Looking at the scene after the credits rights now. Is there only one ending?

Wow! What a great game. I beat up the guy in the end, then got beat up my two older women, it was great! I guess I got the good ending because we all road into the sunset (the beach actually) at the end. I liked everything about it, including the tension I had playing the whole thing. Did it in 180 hours......damn. I don't know if I'll give it a second go, it's just so long. Were there multiple endings to this? I assume so since it's game over if you don't pass your first test.
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Re: Tali'Thread vas Clan Zorah nar BSN 6.0

Postby TheodoricFriede » September 25th, 2018, 5:35 pm

SciFlyBoy wrote:@Theo
I finished P5. Looking at the scene after the credits rights now. Is there only one ending?

There are two real endings. Both stem from the question the Grail gives you.

If you work with it, you get the bad ending. If you destroy it, you get the good ending.

This isnt including the other bad ends where you just run out of time. Some of which are extremely fucked up. Failing Makotos quest basically means shes kidnapped, drugged, and raped to near death. Failing Sae's interrogation, or running out of time in her level, means the main character gets shot in the head at the interrogation desk.

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Postby SciFlyBoy » September 25th, 2018, 5:40 pm

Looking through the trophies I missed a lot of stuff. I was probably a few points away from maxing all my social skills. Didn't go fishing. Didn't hit a home run. Didn't collect all requests, but I guess I'd have to max out all confidants to do that. There were some decisions I made that probably would have made the game take a sour turn, especially towards the end when Igor was revealed to be not him. I guess I made all the paragon choices and everything ended up perfect. How did your run throughs go?
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Postby SciFlyBoy » September 25th, 2018, 5:46 pm

TheodoricFriede wrote:
Failing Sae's interrogation...

Fu...what? I thought I DID fail it. That whole sequence was really something else. I had no idea what was going on and I thought it was the end of the game the whole time. Except for the part where they explain the bait and switch thing they did with Aketchy and the story moved on.

About Makoto, shit. Thanks for telling me to be diligent about completing requests early. I don't think I would have picked up the controller again after that.
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Re: Tali'Thread vas Clan Zorah nar BSN 6.0

Postby TheodoricFriede » September 25th, 2018, 5:57 pm

SciFlyBoy wrote: How did your run throughs go?

First playthrough i was able to max out all my social skills, but not even close to getting all the Confidants to maximum.

there is no real morality system in the game. You can be a dick or be a nice guy, but ultimately it doesn't effect much other then the speed in which you make friendships, or a few responses.

SciFlyBoy wrote:Fu...what? I thought I DID fail it. That whole sequence was really something else. I had no idea what was going on and I thought it was the end of the game the whole time. Except for the part where they explain the bait and switch thing they did with Aketchy and the story moved on.

About Makoto, shit. Thanks for telling me to be diligent about completing requests early. I don't think I would have picked up the controller again after that.

You CAN fail it, but it involves selling out all your friends for a supposed lighter sentence. I liked that part of the game. I'm always a big fan of revealing the protagonists had the upper hand the whole time in a scenario where it seems like they are losing.

Makoto's bad end is easily the most fucked up thing in the game. You dont see it, you just lose contact with her completely, and the the police show up to arrest you saying they found her in the aforementioned state. The only word she was able to say is your name, so you are being blamed for it.
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Postby SciFlyBoy » September 25th, 2018, 6:53 pm

Yeah, I watched them all on the tube. Feels real good to get it done. Kind of want to give games a rest for a few days. P5 was pretty much my summer. I forget, what are you playing now?
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Re: Tali'Thread vas Clan Zorah nar BSN 6.0

Postby TheodoricFriede » September 25th, 2018, 7:12 pm

SciFlyBoy wrote:Yeah, I watched them all on the tube. Feels real good to get it done. Kind of want to give games a rest for a few days. P5 was pretty much my summer. I forget, what are you playing now?

The Metal Gear Solid series. I'm finally at 5. no idea how much of that game is left.

After that I'll play Revengence and I can officially say I know Metal Gear.

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Postby Vol » September 25th, 2018, 11:47 pm

The difficulty curve in Dark Crusader is charmingly out of wack. Stronghold missions are easier than many simple attack/defense missions, if you know how to build fast and set up a defensive perimeter. I suppose without honor guard and prefab buildings, they'd be much harder with the opening attacks, but if you beat those back, they really only send small, weak attacks after. And I'm playing IG, so my basic infantry is a coward in cardboard armor with a flashlight gun. Still, it's _fun_, which is a vital guddam component of a video game, regardless of jank.

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Re: Tali'Thread vas Clan Zorah nar BSN 6.0

Postby Alienmorph » September 26th, 2018, 6:34 am

Vol wrote:The difficulty curve in Dark Crusader is charmingly out of wack. Stronghold missions are easier than many simple attack/defense missions, if you know how to build fast and set up a defensive perimeter. I suppose without honor guard and prefab buildings, they'd be much harder with the opening attacks, but if you beat those back, they really only send small, weak attacks after. And I'm playing IG, so my basic infantry is a coward in cardboard armor with a flashlight gun. Still, it's _fun_, which is a vital guddam component of a video game, regardless of jank.



What faction you're playing as, Vol?

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Postby Vol » September 26th, 2018, 1:15 pm

Imperial Guard, my favorite army.

Was planning on jumping right to Soulstorm, to play as Vance MOTHERFUCKING Stubbs, but might do a Necron/Hard playthrough of DC, just for the fun of it. WoW has a big content patch coming up, and since I don't intend to raid or push high mythic keys, kinda waiting on that.

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Postby Azint » September 26th, 2018, 3:04 pm

TheodoricFriede wrote:After that I'll play Revengence and I can officially say I know Metal Gear.

Metal Gear?

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Re: Tali'Thread vas Clan Zorah nar BSN 6.0

Postby TheodoricFriede » September 26th, 2018, 3:43 pm

Azint wrote:
TheodoricFriede wrote:After that I'll play Revengence and I can officially say I know Metal Gear.

Metal Gear?

Metal Gear!

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Postby TTTX » September 26th, 2018, 5:40 pm

TheodoricFriede wrote:The Metal Gear Solid series. I'm finally at 5. no idea how much of that game is left.

After that I'll play Revengence and I can officially say I know Metal Gear.

That's what Metal Gear wants you to think right before playing you like a goddamn fiddle!
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Postby TheodoricFriede » September 26th, 2018, 5:44 pm

TTTX wrote:That's what Metal Gear wants you to think right before playing you like a goddamn fiddle!

Joking aside, I actually feel like I understand the series pretty well.

The only game that didn't make sense on its own was 2, and that's all solved by 4. The trick to understanding the story of Metal Gear isn't to start at the beginning, its to start at the end, and work your way back.

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TheodoricFriede wrote:Joking aside, I actually feel like I understand the series pretty well.

The only game that didn't make sense on its own was 2, and that's all solved by 4. The trick to understanding the story of Metal Gear isn't to start at the beginning, its to start at the end, and work your way back.

Nah, start from the beginning and then move your way forward, makes the best sense really because of retcons and false information (kinda like our history really) that gets spread around from game to game and the hints of some of the games might recreated virtual reality like MGS3 Portal ops and Peace Walker.
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Postby TheodoricFriede » September 26th, 2018, 11:24 pm

Alright, how much am I missing out on if I just stop doing the non story related Side Missions in MGS5?

Mechanically this game is very good, and the story, when its there, is interesting, but its starting to do that open world game thing where its 50ish longer hours then it needs to be.

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TheodoricFriede wrote:Alright, how much am I missing out on if I just stop doing the non story related Side Missions in MGS5?

Mechanically this game is very good, and the story, when its there, is interesting, but its starting to do that open world game thing where its 50ish longer hours then it needs to be.

Generally very little.
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TheodoricFriede wrote:Alright, how much am I missing out on if I just stop doing the non story related Side Missions in MGS5?

Mechanically this game is very good, and the story, when its there, is interesting, but its starting to do that open world game thing where its 50ish longer hours then it needs to be.


You'd be missing out on GMP, resources, equipment, weapons, personnel, bunch of other things.

Stuff that'll make your life easier.
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Postby Vol » September 27th, 2018, 6:54 pm

Slapfight topic is right below this one.

Gracias.

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Postby TheodoricFriede » September 27th, 2018, 6:56 pm

Vol wrote:Slapfight topic is right below this one.

Gracias.

And as for you. You couldn't be less helpful if I was on fire, and you threw a bucket of gasoline on me.

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Re: Tali'Thread vas Clan Zorah nar BSN 6.0

Postby Mobius_118 » September 27th, 2018, 6:57 pm

TheodoricFriede wrote:
Vol wrote:Slapfight topic is right below this one.

Gracias.

And as for you. You couldn't be less helpful if I was on fire, and you threw a bucket of gasoline on me.


He said take it to slap fights.
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Re: Tali'Thread vas Clan Zorah nar BSN 6.0

Postby Mazder » September 27th, 2018, 7:13 pm

TheodoricFriede wrote:
Vol wrote:Slapfight topic is right below this one.

Gracias.

And as for you. You couldn't be less helpful if I was on fire, and you threw a bucket of gasoline on me.

Dude, not cool.

All arguing goes in the slapfights threat, if you really must lash out at every single post Mobius makes to you it takes place there, if not then simply don't reply and ignore him it saves everyone time and effort.

And failing that Vol was just doing his job, ease off.


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