Tali'Thread vas Clan Zorah nar BSN 6.0

[TTTX]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0I6Xk7GMfc&list=WL&index=8

[Vol]

So Cadia is going to fall in a newly announced campaign, starting January 7th.

If you know what any of that means, you'll share in my choked laughter.

[Alienmorph]

I presume you're referring to the Warhammer40k planet that's sitting near the edge of the giant warp shithole that is where the Eldar home-cluster used to be?

[Vol]

Ayup. Years ago the creators did a big campaign event where players would report their games to affect how the story would play out. Then they changed it years later so their pet character did better in the outcome. Now they're changing it again to give their pet character a total victory, it sounds like.

[Dragaros]

So Cadia is going to fall in a newly announced campaign, starting January 7th.

If you know what any of that means, you'll share in my choked laughter.

Is this still Abby's 13th Black Crusade, or is this the start of the 14th?

To be fair to poor, old, can't-seem-to-ever-win Abaddon, only a couple of those Crusades were serious engagements; most were just diversions to keep the Imperium busy and distracted while he went after various secret objectives. According to GamesWorkshop, anyway. Gotta save Abby's reputation somehow.

(Funny thing is, Chaos is already victorious. Having the galaxy locked in a perpetual, never-ending stalemate of war is the perfect outcome for them, as its the perfect environment for them to flourish and feast for eternity. If they ever won in totality, Chaos would slowly starve itself, so to speak. The Warp needs mortals to give them the emotions/minds/souls/prayers they feed on. Consume them all at once, causing their extinction, and the food supply is gone. That's why Horus is referred to by daemons as the "Sacrificed King". He was never meant to actually achieve victory. His failure was intended. The outcome of the Horus Hersey was the endgame for Chaos. Abaddon and all his traitor forces will never win no matter what their numbers or firepower or strategies because his own Immaterium patrons will not allow it. All Chaos has to do is make sure the Necrons or the Tyranids don't wipe out all life. They couldn't care less about conquering the Imperium, because they don't need to, and would be against their own best interests to do so.)

[Vol]

Far as I've heard, it's a third retcon of the 13th. Though GW did make a funny in-universe propaganda piece by the Imperium about it: https://regimental-standard.com/2016/12/21/cadi-a-ok/

Which sucks, since Cadia is cool and Chaos already won Fantasy, so fuck 'em. Plus there's way cooler stuff going on with the Orks and Tyranids. Though I've ignored the Necrons entirely since they got revamped into Space Tomb Kings.

Eh. Giving away the ending in the title of campaign seems like a red herring.

[Vol]

Man, tried to draw a humanoid figure seriously for the first time in a while (on my tablet). Just an outline of their bodytype.

On the plus side, I do remember more of basic, beginner anatomy than I thought I would. On the downside, it took me like 2 hours to do it, and while it's clearly recognizable as what I intended, I can tell where my anatomy knowledge lacks. Which I suppose is another upside, actually.

Regardless. It felt good to draw something again.

[Riptide]

Man, tried to draw a humanoid figure seriously for the first time in a while (on my tablet). Just an outline of their bodytype.

On the plus side, I do remember more of basic, beginner anatomy than I thought I would. On the downside, it took me like 2 hours to do it, and while it's clearly recognizable as what I intended, I can tell where my anatomy knowledge lacks. Which I suppose is another upside, actually.

Regardless. It felt good to draw something again.

If you need more lessons, just ask.

[Vol]

It would probably help if I learn how to use Corel Painter 5 too, since Paint, while familiar, doesn't have the best tools.

[Riptide]

Now, now, don't blame the program.

...but yeah, non Paint is god awful. Delete it from your hard drive. Send it to binary hell where it belongs.

[Vol]

I actually spent a fair bit of time in highschool, which is a long story, screwing around trying to draw in Paint. I think I have a few of those old, shitty files on some portable memory somewhere around here, and they're not the worst things, at least the last few. Though at the time, I was trying to make things "look right" more than understand the underlying structure.

[Riptide]

I actually spent a fair bit of time in highschool, which is a long story, screwing around trying to draw in Paint. I think I have a few of those old, shitty files on some portable memory somewhere around here, and they're not the worst things, at least the last few. Though at the time, I was trying to make things "look right" more than understand the underlying structure.

Everyone tries to "make it look right" before they understand the only way to do that is to understand the structure.

Before that, you're just... trying to be a human xerox machine. Making that transition is a pain.

[Vol]

Essentially. I spent time in middle school recreating the drawings from the Warcraft 2 manual, freehand, and they came out pretty damn close in the end, for a child's effort. But it taught me nothing about what I was drawing. Same in high school for a bit, actually. I took an art class in 10th grade, and one of the weekly assignments was to copy a drawing from somewhere else. Sorta gave a false sense of accomplishment that one could mimic another's work pretty well with some effort, and then have no foundation to make their own work at all.

[Azint]

Debbie Reynolds has passed. Her last words were allegedly "I want to be with Carrie."

[Someone With Mass]

Debbie Reynolds has passed. Her last words were allegedly "I want to be with Carrie."

But wait! We still have two days left! Any other celebrity who'll suddenly kick the bucket?

[TheodoricFriede]

Debbie Reynolds has passed. Her last words were allegedly "I want to be with Carrie."

Its just awful.

[TheodoricFriede]

Anyway Im back in Texas.

Nice to be back with my stuff.

And cats.

Oh and wife or something.

[TTTX]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XJWaTd12z0&list=WL&index=17

[Alienmorph]

Far as I've heard, it's a third retcon of the 13th. Though GW did make a funny in-universe propaganda piece by the Imperium about it: https://regimental-standard.com/2016/12/21/cadi-a-ok/

Which sucks, since Cadia is cool and Chaos already won Fantasy, so fuck 'em. Plus there's way cooler stuff going on with the Orks and Tyranids. Though I've ignored the Necrons entirely since they got revamped into Space Tomb Kings.

Eh. Giving away the ending in the title of campaign seems like a red herring.

I'm a fan of W40k, but I follow it mostly through the videogames (looooove the Dawn of War series in particular) so there's much I don't know. I've seen the revamped Necrons though when the went full-on space mummies with them. What's going on withe the 'Nids and the Greenskins instead?

[Mazder]

Okay, time to touch season 3 competitive in Overwatch...
Urgh this'll hurt.

[Someone With Mass]

Le sigh. My new computer won't arrive until the tenth or so because the graphics card I ordered was out of stock and they placed an order for it today. I decided to skip the version that had factory overclocking because the one without is cheaper and it'll make the whole thing get done sooner. Not to mention that I'm not much for overclocking.

The only thing missing was the graphics card too.

Speaking of which, my current OS has been branded as fake (the W7 build 7601 bug) because of some error I tried to fix a while back despite the fact that the computer came with a genuine version. I made a backup using the process that comes with Windows. My version is Ultimate and I ordered an OME of W7 Professional at the same time I ordered the computer, which is technically a downgrade. I wonder if I can put my backup into the blank drive and then install Professional without messing anything up or needing to verify the broken version with a product key I don't have.

[Vol]

I'm a fan of W40k, but I follow it mostly through the videogames (looooove the Dawn of War series in particular) so there's much I don't know. I've seen the revamped Necrons though when the went full-on space mummies with them. What's going on withe the 'Nids and the Greenskins instead?

Dark Crusade and Soulstorm (Other things aside) were some of the best RTS games I've ever played. DoW2 was alright, but I really didn't care much about Space Magpies to begin with, and I missed base building and bigger armies.

The Tyranids and Orks are having a fuck-huge war because a rogue inquisitor used captured genestealers to reroute a hive fleet into an ork planet to buy the Imperium time. As it turns out, both sides loved this and it turned into a stalemate. Constant, 24/7, Tyranid v Ork carnage. So both sides are getting reinforcements, both species thrive through conflict, and whoever wins is going to be far stronger for the effort.

Plus the Tyranids in general are cool, their actual fleet has yet to arrive.

[SciFlyBoy]

Essentially. I spent time in middle school recreating the drawings from the Warcraft 2 manual, freehand, and they came out pretty damn close in the end, for a child's effort. But it taught me nothing about what I was drawing. Same in high school for a bit, actually. I took an art class in 10th grade, and one of the weekly assignments was to copy a drawing from somewhere else. Sorta gave a false sense of accomplishment that one could mimic another's work pretty well with some effort, and then have no foundation to make their own work at all.

That's exactly what I go through, but with music. I'll make a mock up of a cue, recreate the entire orchestration, try my best to balance everything out and in the end I don't know what I actually learned by doing that. I'm told I learn how the masters orchestrate, but I feel like I don't really grasp anything.

[Vol]

That's exactly what I go through, but with music. I'll make a mock up of a cue, recreate the entire orchestration, try my best to balance everything out and in the end I don't know what I actually learned by doing that. I'm told I learn how the masters orchestrate, but I feel like I don't really grasp anything.

I stand out as someone particularly lacking in innate musical enjoyment, for context. But is there objective, understood structure in musical composition that can be learned?

Which would be roughly similar to asking if you can compose by "sketching the skeleton" then "fleshing out" from there. Pun intended.

[FrozenShadow]

Debbie Reynolds has passed. Her last words were allegedly "I want to be with Carrie."

Dammit.

This had really been bad year. That also means, that whoever does those memorial montages on Oscars, will be seriously overworked. So many deaths.

[SciFlyBoy]

I stand out as someone particularly lacking in innate musical enjoyment, for context. But is there objective, understood structure in musical composition that can be learned?

Which would be roughly similar to asking if you can compose by "sketching the skeleton" then "fleshing out" from there. Pun intended.

The skeleton in music is form. Star Wars end credits is basically A, B, C, D, E, while Star Trek is usually A, B, A. Most songs follow an analogical form involving themes, sub-themes and variations on a theme, like A, B, C, A prime, B prime. Genesis even named one of their songs after it's form, ABACAB.

I can take the form (skeleton) and add my own themes (meat) and make a body of music. I looks like a body and moves like a body, but what I feel like I'm not quite understanding is personality. 100 copies of a person in a room is just 100 songs that follow form, does that make it music? Is a clone a human being, a unique person? I'm searching for what makes that piece of music unique and each composer has a unique way of putting things together, even if they follow a simple form. I can copy form, but making my personalities realistic is like creating a character that is realistic and not just a representation of a bunch of character flaws. That's what I'm trying to understand when I make a mock up of a piece, that's it's more than the sum of it's parts. I can create the parts (and desire to improve greatly at that), but discovering what "makes it more" is eluding me.

[SciFlyBoy]

Guys, the creator of the red SOLO cup died.

[Alienmorph]

The Tyranids and Orks are having a fuck-huge war because a rogue inquisitor used captured genestealers to reroute a hive fleet into an ork planet to buy the Imperium time. As it turns out, both sides loved this and it turned into a stalemate. Constant, 24/7, Tyranid v Ork carnage. So both sides are getting reinforcements, both species thrive through conflict, and whoever wins is going to be far stronger for the effort.

Plus the Tyranids in general are cool, their actual fleet has yet to arrive.

So the Imperium pushed the Orks in a war with the 'Nids... who are likely gonna feast on their genome, and become even stronger and more aggressive.

Good plan!

[Someone With Mass]

Here's another death: My 21 year old microwave. Goddamn it, 2016. All I wanted was some tea too.

[SciFlyBoy]

Here's another death: My 21 year old microwave. Goddamn it, 2016. All I wanted was some tea too.

Lemon or milk? I hear that's a big issue in some areas.

[Someone With Mass]

Here's another death: My 21 year old microwave. Goddamn it, 2016. All I wanted was some tea too.

Lemon or milk? I hear that's a big issue in some areas.

I use milk to cool it off and I think it makes it taste better. That and I don't want to sit there for fifteen minutes slowly giving my tongue second degree burns.

[SciFlyBoy]

I use milk to cool it off and I think it makes it taste better. That and I don't want to sit there for fifteen minutes slowly giving my tongue second degree burns.

Never had tea with anything other than honey for when my throat REALLY needs it. What type of tea? How much milk? As much as you would for coffee?

[Someone With Mass]

I use milk to cool it off and I think it makes it taste better. That and I don't want to sit there for fifteen minutes slowly giving my tongue second degree burns.

Never had tea with anything other than honey for when my throat REALLY needs it. What type of tea? How much milk? As much as you would for coffee?

Lipton vanilla with about a quarter milk, I guess.

[Mazder]

Never had tea with anything other than honey for when my throat REALLY needs it. What type of tea? How much milk? As much as you would for coffee?

Lipton [/quote]
get out!

No but seriously I don't get the whole sweet tea thing.

English Black Tea or Earl Grey master race here.

[Someone With Mass]

get out!

No but seriously I don't get the whole sweet tea thing.

English Black Tea or Earl Grey master race here.

And when Early Grey can produce something around here that doesn't taste like cat piss, I might agree.

[TheodoricFriede]

And when Early Grey can produce something around here that doesn't taste like cat piss, I might agree.

YOu arent making it right.

First off, Earl Grey doesn't need to be steeped for nearly as long as most other black teas. Three minutes at most.

Second, its designed to be drunk with cream and honey. Captain Picard be Damned.

[Dragaros]

Man, tried to draw a humanoid figure seriously for the first time in a while (on my tablet). Just an outline of their bodytype.

On the plus side, I do remember more of basic, beginner anatomy than I thought I would. On the downside, it took me like 2 hours to do it, and while it's clearly recognizable as what I intended, I can tell where my anatomy knowledge lacks. Which I suppose is another upside, actually.

Regardless. It felt good to draw something again.

For some reason, human faces and anatomy have always given me trouble. I've gotten better with human muscles, skeleture and form over time, but I still got a long way to go, and my faces are still terrible.

Far as I've heard, it's a third retcon of the 13th. Though GW did make a funny in-universe propaganda piece by the Imperium about it: https://regimental-standard.com/2016/12/21/cadi-a-ok/

Which sucks, since Cadia is cool and Chaos already won Fantasy, so fuck 'em. Plus there's way cooler stuff going on with the Orks and Tyranids. Though I've ignored the Necrons entirely since they got revamped into Space Tomb Kings.

Eh. Giving away the ending in the title of campaign seems like a red herring.

Yeah, their attempt to make the Necrons more interesting made them less interesting. Oldcrons over Newcrons!

Chaos in 40K, ironically enough, is fighting to maintain the status quo, not destroy it, so no fear there.

All the variations of the Eldar can't win because they're already on the slow path of extinction, the Tau don't have a snowball's chance in hell, the Orks basically have the same condition as Chaos--if they wipe out everyone, then they have no more fun foes to fight against, so they like the status quo as is--the Imperium only has the strength to endure and not triumph, and the traitor space marines can't triumph because the Chaos Gods won't allow them. If any story-ending conclusion happens, it'll be because the Tyranids or the Necrons manage to wipe out all organic matter in the galaxy.

[Dragaros]

[Dragaros]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8mt3WPIGe4

[Dragaros]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghBB3jnHrhs

[Dragaros]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hdl4ZXo9TDo

[Azint]

My GTX 1080 and 16GB ram arrived and I finally installed them. Every game I load up, they auto detect video settings. I went from Medium settings to this.

[Alienmorph]

Chaos in 40K, ironically enough, is fighting to maintain the status quo, not destroy it, so no fear there.

All the variations of the Eldar can't win because they're already on the slow path of extinction, the Tau don't have a snowball's chance in hell, the Orks basically have the same condition as Chaos--if they wipe out everyone, then they have no more fun foes to fight against, so they like the status quo as is--the Imperium only has the strength to endure and not triumph, and the traitor space marines can't triumph because the Chaos Gods won't allow them. If any story-ending conclusion happens, it'll be because the Tyranids or the Necrons manage to wipe out all organic matter in the galaxy.

Well... the endgame condition for W40k is obviously gonna be the Emperor finally kicking the bucket.

Once that happens, the status quo will be shattered like crazy one way or the other. You could have the Tau taking over alot of Imperial worlds left weakened and without a guide, a ton of people will be easy prey to the Chaos gods and their lackeys, and Lord knows how much damage Necrons, Tyranids and Orks are gonna cause.

I don't see it happening anytime soon, but it's the biggest elephant in the room in Warhammer 40k. The only real reason it didn't yet happen is probably because GW hasn't figured out "what's next?" properly.

[Mazder]

YOu arent making it right.

First off, Earl Grey doesn't need to be steeped for nearly as long as most other black teas. Three minutes at most.

Second, its designed to be drunk with cream and honey. Captain Picard be Damned.

Three minutes is the max for some people, not I because I like mine strong.
....
The cream is meant to go in the scone!!!
And honey is fair buuuuut you're just going to remove the bergamot flavour with too much honey, so be careful on that, just enough to enhance, rather than overpower. If there is no citrus-y tang you've ruined it.

In my opinion you don't NEED cream or milk in Earl Grey if done right, but if you do then not too much.
Other black teas though, yeah go for it.

Now Green Teas on the other hand I can't get round. They taste of next to nothing to me.

And when Early Grey can produce something around here that doesn't taste like cat piss, I might agree.

> Drinks Lipton
> Thinks Earl Grey is cat's piss.
>Lol

Nah but seriously if Lipton is better than your local Earl Grey I'd switch to coffee because if you're forced to slum it with Lipton then my god you're being robbed of your money.

[Deano]

Spoken like a true english man.

[Dragaros]

Well... the endgame condition for W40k is obviously gonna be the Emperor finally kicking the bucket.

Once that happens, the status quo will be shattered like crazy one way or the other. You could have the Tau taking over alot of Imperial worlds left weakened and without a guide, a ton of people will be easy prey to the Chaos gods and their lackeys, and Lord knows how much damage Necrons, Tyranids and Orks are gonna cause.

I don't see it happening anytime soon, but it's the biggest elephant in the room in Warhammer 40k. The only real reason it didn't yet happen is probably because GW hasn't figured out "what's next?" properly.

True. The Golden Throne can't sustain the last tiny spark of Empy's life force forever. And when the Astronomican goes dark, everything changes and its all up for grabs. Complete pandemonium, status quo goes out the window.

But by the time that happens, Chaos will have a new favorite species to take mankind’s place and the cycle can start all over again. Chaos decrees the game never ends!

Lord Tzeentch has a plan for everything. EVERYTHING.




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Or the Imperium builds an ark ship and heads for the next galaxy to avoid all this crazy shit altogether. Only to find the next one is even worse.

Warhammer 40k: Andromeda: NOW WITH EVEN MORE GRIM DARKNESS

[TheodoricFriede]

In my opinion you don't NEED cream or milk in Earl Grey if done right, but if you do then not too much.
Other black teas though, yeah go for it.

Now Green Teas on the other hand I can't get round. They taste of next to nothing to me.

I also haven't had good earl Grey in a while. The stuff i bought is fine, but went way way too heavy on the bergamont, so i need more honey and cream.

Try Genmaicha for green tea. Its got a nice toasty flavor to it. Its my all around favorite tea.

[Someone With Mass]

And when Early Grey can produce something around here that doesn't taste like cat piss, I might agree.

YOu arent making it right.

First off, Earl Grey doesn't need to be steeped for nearly as long as most other black teas. Three minutes at most.

Second, its designed to be drunk with cream and honey. Captain Picard be Damned.

Well, cream is a bit much for my stomach (ex-lactose intolerant) and I've never quite liked honey.

[Someone With Mass]

My GTX 1080 and 16GB ram arrived and I finally installed them. Every game I load up, they auto detect video settings. I went from Medium settings to this.

And my GTX 1080 is the only part missing from my rig. The guys doing the assembling said that they would've gotten a new stock of them this week and ended up placing an order for them yesterday. Then they have to assemble it and do some tests and then ship it which can also take up to five work days. More than a week away.

Oh well. Could be worse. I could have been persuaded to buy another hackjob because the guy at the store was too lazy to make a custom build. Like last time. Never again.

[TheodoricFriede]

Well, cream is a bit much for my stomach (ex-lactose intolerant) and I've never quite liked honey.

Well as Mazdar said, you probably need a higher quality of tea, and to steep said tea for less time.