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Re: Tali'Thread vas Clan Zorah nar BSN 6.0

Postby TTTX » January 1st, 2017, 8:11 am

TheodoricFriede wrote:I think I have just lost my ability to enjoy things.

Its actually quite distressing.

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Postby Mazder » January 1st, 2017, 8:24 am

Alienmorph wrote:Well, to be fair that's the whole point. It's the original game with updated graphics, a funnier but not obnoxious take on the main character, and more gory all around.

I can see why that can seem to be refreshing, since nowadays most of the market for FPS is saturated of CoD and Halo clones, with bullshit plots that take themselves too damn seriously. And even other more nostalgic and self-aware titles like Duke Nukem Forever failed miserably.

I don't think it's gonna be remembered as a masterpiece in a few years, but as an FPS that didn't fuck it up and was just fun to play? Yes, I think we can grant it that.

TBH as a random gore-fest shooter I even find it's simplicity in that kind of lacking.
I mean I've gone back to Payday more than DOOM simply for the killing of endless enemies.
I mean once the gimmick of an HD re-release/reboot has worn off it's still just DOOM, and I wasn't playing it before and I am not really playing it after. It's not bad but it's just not that good either.

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Re: Tali'Thread vas Clan Zorah nar BSN 6.0

Postby Someone With Mass » January 1st, 2017, 9:24 am

TheodoricFriede wrote:I think I have just lost my ability to enjoy things.

Its actually quite distressing.


You seem to enjoy them Pokemans, though.

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Re: Tali'Thread vas Clan Zorah nar BSN 6.0

Postby Someone With Mass » January 1st, 2017, 9:37 am

I just haven't had a game that I've enjoyed to its fullest like I did with Mass Effect 2 for such a long time. Overwatch is getting way too repetitive for my taste and all Blizzard is doing to add some "variety" is to tack on some new skins and hope that fixes everything. Either that or change/fuck up the meta so that there's a guarantee that certain three-four characters are picked every time. The notion that this game is supposed to be an esport is something I can't take seriously at all when there are characters that are significantly better and stronger than the rest.

Aside from that and a handful of indie games like Enter the Gungeon, Totally Accurate Battle Simulator and Space Pirates and Zombies, I have yet to see a game that really entertains me. Might be because I've become more jaded with the years, but still.

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Re: Tali'Thread vas Clan Zorah nar BSN 6.0

Postby Vol » January 1st, 2017, 3:07 pm

2 weeks without a sip of coffee, the first one just now, SO NICE.

Also you guys are way too morose about the new year. Yeah, it's a silly ritual, but it's a good time to take a moment to reflect and shit. See where the last year took you. Set some loose goals for the next.

@SWM: I know what you mean, that special spark hasn't appeared since then. ME3 kinda smothered it, I imagine. I've played some really good games since then, but haven't found that elusive pull to make me play it over and over and over again yet.

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Postby Someone With Mass » January 1st, 2017, 4:43 pm

Vol wrote:2 weeks without a sip of coffee, the first one just now, SO NICE.

Also you guys are way too morose about the new year. Yeah, it's a silly ritual, but it's a good time to take a moment to reflect and shit. See where the last year took you. Set some loose goals for the next.

@SWM: I know what you mean, that special spark hasn't appeared since then. ME3 kinda smothered it, I imagine. I've played some really good games since then, but haven't found that elusive pull to make me play it over and over and over again yet.


I don't want to look where the last year took me, because that only makes it feel like I did jack shit.

As for games, I tend to replay those that feel less like chores. Games like Skyrim and Fallout are probably not going to get played ever again, simply because dumping 60+ hours into yet another playthrough that'll have very similar outcomes just feels...not worth it. I need a new podcast game too. I have almost 700 hours in Sins of Solar Empire because of that and I've almost done everything there is to do in that game.
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Re: Tali'Thread vas Clan Zorah nar BSN 6.0

Postby Azint » January 1st, 2017, 7:47 pm

TheodoricFriede wrote:I mean, I went in expecting that.

But like, people were talking about this game like it was the second coming of Christ. Its just a shooter. Its just a violent, kind of generic, shooter.

Doom is a return to the classic FPS genre where you blitz through the map at high speeds, carrying an armory on your back, with enemies emerging from every hole with a terrible need to touch you inappropriately. It is not a cover-based shooter, it is not grounded in realism in any way, and it does not take itself seriously, which makes it go against the grain compared to the FPS market these days. That is the appeal, the nostalgia for games like Doom, or Quake, Wolfenstein.

I disagree on it being generic, since we actually have a fairly wide palette of enemies, who each do something unique, with a choice of guns equally as unique. I thought it actually had some really good level design, considering it is decidedly not a hallway shooter, and its rather arcade-like nature with power-ups, scores, collectibles, and such help make it stand apart.

If it's not to your taste, fair enough, but I was actually very happy with it.

There were a lot of surprisingly good shooters to release in 2016, to me, at least. Besides Doom, both Titanfall 2 and Gears of War 4 ended up being much better than I feared. I have yet to play it, but I was told by many that Infinite Warfare actually has a good campaign that tried something different for the series, even if the multiplayer was lacking.

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Re: Tali'Thread vas Clan Zorah nar BSN 6.0

Postby NCLanceman » January 1st, 2017, 7:56 pm

Vol wrote:@SWM: I know what you mean, that special spark hasn't appeared since then. ME3 kinda smothered it, I imagine. I've played some really good games since then, but haven't found that elusive pull to make me play it over and over and over again yet.


Not even Fallout: New Vegas? Cause I loved the shit out of New Vegas.

New Vegas was so good you guys.

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Re: Tali'Thread vas Clan Zorah nar BSN 6.0

Postby TheodoricFriede » January 1st, 2017, 8:06 pm

Azint wrote:
If it's not to your taste, fair enough, but I was actually very happy with it.

At its best i found it aggressively mediocre, and at its worst, absolutely infuriating.

I think i'm done. I got to the third level, and after several bullshit deaths, have no desire to continue.

NCLanceman wrote:
New Vegas was so good you guys.

Was, and still is, the best Fallout game.

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Re: Tali'Thread vas Clan Zorah nar BSN 6.0

Postby Azint » January 1st, 2017, 8:07 pm

New Vegas did this funny thing to me. The first file I had, my saves all committed suicide once I started the endgame at Hoover Dam, but I liked the game enough to give it another chance. It happened again, on an entirely new character. I later tried to play it again about two years later, this time on PC, after the game had already pushed out its final DLC. It happened again, at Hoover Dam.

I think I wanted to punish myself, and decided to start a new character during the Fallout 4 release hype, and I did everything but the endgame. I was too burned out and reluctant to finish this fourth character, but New Vegas was somewhat fun. I actually liked 3 and 4 more than I did New Vegas.

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Postby NCLanceman » January 1st, 2017, 8:24 pm

Oh man, that sucks.

Reminds me of Neverwinter Nights. When I played it, I was halfway through when my hard drive died. After replacing it, I reinstalled it and suddenly realized the plot was basically "Welcome to the Hub Area! Go get a thing from a dungeon in each of the cardinal directions, then return and we'll move the plot forward one tick!", repeated four times. After that the spell was broken and I just couldn't bring myself to finish the game. Or listen to more of Aribeth's whining.

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Re: Tali'Thread vas Clan Zorah nar BSN 6.0

Postby TheodoricFriede » January 1st, 2017, 8:41 pm

Azint wrote: I actually liked 3 and 4 more than I did New Vegas.

Ive never actually beaten New Vegas. I just had so much fun with it that I consider it the best.

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Re: Tali'Thread vas Clan Zorah nar BSN 6.0

Postby cannedcream » January 1st, 2017, 10:38 pm

NCLanceman wrote:
Vol wrote:@SWM: I know what you mean, that special spark hasn't appeared since then. ME3 kinda smothered it, I imagine. I've played some really good games since then, but haven't found that elusive pull to make me play it over and over and over again yet.


Not even Fallout: New Vegas? Cause I loved the shit out of New Vegas.

New Vegas was so good you guys.


Everyone keeps saying this, but I was always kinda 'meh' about it.

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Postby TheodoricFriede » January 1st, 2017, 10:46 pm

I decided to start playing the first Mass Effect again.

i forgot how much i missed the film grain effect they used in the first game. i wish they brought that back.

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Postby SciFlyBoy » January 2nd, 2017, 12:55 am

*had to google film grain.

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Postby Someone With Mass » January 2nd, 2017, 1:42 am

I remember playing New Vegas having the unlucky foresight to walk into the Legion's main camp and fill everyone I saw with hot lead before the end quest stuff showed up. Sadly, this rendered the game unwinnable, since the majority of those quests involved Caesar. Speaking of which, I always got royally triggered whenever one of those brain-dead savages pronounced the name as if it was spelled with a hard K, only for another to pronounce it with a C. Probably why I ended up shooting all the members of the Legion in that one town they had sacked. That and I like to think that I was doing the human race a favor by exterminating their backward thinking.

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Postby Azint » January 2nd, 2017, 3:53 am

I admit that New Vegas taught me that pronouncing it "Kai-ser" instead of "Seez-er" was the actual Roman pronunciation. In Latin, all 'C's made the hard sound as opposed to the soft sound.

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Postby TheodoricFriede » January 2nd, 2017, 3:58 am

Azint wrote:I admit that New Vegas taught me that pronouncing it "Kai-ser" instead of "Seez-er" was the actual Roman pronunciation. In Latin, all 'C's made the hard sound as opposed to the soft sound.

Also all the V sounds are W sounds.

So the famous phrase "Vine Vide Viche" sounds a lot more like "weenee weedee weekee".

Bit less intimidating.

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Postby Azint » January 2nd, 2017, 5:03 am

You could tell who was who when people went running around barking "Ah-vay See-zer!"

Phonies.

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Postby Vol » January 2nd, 2017, 10:02 am

NCLanceman wrote:Not even Fallout: New Vegas? Cause I loved the shit out of New Vegas.

New Vegas was so good you guys.

New Vegas was very good, yes. I think I did as close to a 100% game as I could, and that was about the last time I played it. Great game. Some of the best DLC I've ever played, all of them. But Obsidian simply doesn't do characters in that special way that old Bioware did, where you would play the game over to hear a single conversation over again.

At least in my humble nerd opinion.

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Vol wrote:
NCLanceman wrote:Not even Fallout: New Vegas? Cause I loved the shit out of New Vegas.

New Vegas was so good you guys.

New Vegas was very good, yes. I think I did as close to a 100% game as I could, and that was about the last time I played it. Great game. Some of the best DLC I've ever played, all of them. But Obsidian simply doesn't do characters in that special way that old Bioware did, where you would play the game over to hear a single conversation over again.

At least in my humble nerd opinion.

I always feel like Obsidian have the better story in their games, while BW have overall the better characters.

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Postby TheodoricFriede » January 2nd, 2017, 3:51 pm

Restoration patch KotOR2 has better characters than KotOR though.

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Postby NCLanceman » January 2nd, 2017, 6:32 pm

TTTX wrote:
Vol wrote:I always feel like Obsidian have the better story in their games, while BW have overall the better characters.

There are exceptions, I think. The characters in Alpha Protocol are definitely more interesting than the entire Dragon Age series, save for Morrigan, Liliana, and Flemeth.

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Postby Azint » January 2nd, 2017, 9:49 pm

Vol wrote:New Vegas was very good, yes. I think I did as close to a 100% game as I could, and that was about the last time I played it. Great game. Some of the best DLC I've ever played, all of them.

Dead Money is among the best writing I had the pleasure to experience, and to me, the DLC progressively became less interesting. I really liked Joshua Graham, but the map was not as interesting. Old World Blues was stupid, but still somewhat fun. Ulysses' DLC was just boring to me, as much as it was the characters all of the build-up came so short to a rather bland ending.

Even then, I still gush about how wonderful Dead Money was.

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Postby RedTracer7 » January 2nd, 2017, 11:15 pm

Azint wrote:Dead Money is among the best writing I had the pleasure to experience, and to me, the DLC progressively became less interesting. I really liked Joshua Graham, but the map was not as interesting. Old World Blues was stupid, but still somewhat fun. Ulysses' DLC was just boring to me, as much as it was the characters all of the build-up came so short to a rather bland ending.

Even then, I still gush about how wonderful Dead Money was.


I specifically remember first playing Dead Money and getting absolutely blown away by the amount of dialogue available. Dog/God who is like the first major character you find just as SO MANY dialogue options, it was awesome.

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Postby Vol » January 3rd, 2017, 12:40 am

Obsidian is more hit and miss, I should say. Tyranny companions, for example, are delightful and interesting. Pillars characters were a mixed bag. KOTOR2 had a great cast. Whereas Bioware, at least in all the games I played, I always had at least one or two characters I really liked. For all the bullshit going on with them, they know emotions, at least a bit.

@Azint: The only issue I had was that they were not written as part of a cohesive narrative, other than Ulysses, so the tone was dramatically different. You get one that's about faith and war and mercy, then you go into madcap retro sci-fi wackiness, then you go into a survival-horror esque heist story, then Lonesome Road as the capstone. So while I loved each one for what they were, as content packs developed after the main game was made, I understand why people can dislike them.

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Postby TheodoricFriede » January 3rd, 2017, 1:28 am

Azint wrote:
Even then, I still gush about how wonderful Dead Money was.

I managed to lock whats-his-nuts in the vault, AND draw 800 tons of gold all the way back to the Mojave Wasteland.

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Postby SciFlyBoy » January 3rd, 2017, 11:06 am

My new 2016 Foxes calendar just came in. Damnit!!!

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Postby Someone With Mass » January 3rd, 2017, 11:08 am

When it comes to the characters, I found the Dead Money DLC to be very entertaining. There's just something about seeing an utopia like that slowly fall apart in detail that fascinates me. Even tried to get on everyone's good side, even though Dean is pathetically easy to piss off early on.

When it comes to the gameplay...hit or miss. I ended up using god mode a lot because I couldn't be assed to sneak by/shut down speakers and dodge fart clouds every tenth meter. It wasn't that visually appealing either.

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Postby DarkStorm » January 3rd, 2017, 1:09 pm

well im back from my week vacation in NYC.

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DarkStorm wrote:well im back from my week vacation in NYC.

I bet the pizzas, bagels and pastrami sandwiches were terrible?

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SciFlyBoy wrote:
DarkStorm wrote:well im back from my week vacation in NYC.

I bet the pizzas, bagels and pastrami sandwiches were terrible?


I cant speak for pizza, I know this place in astoria queens which makes bagels by hand and they are perfect, as for pastrami sandwiches I didn't really have those. All the food I ate is way better than any of the stuff made upstate.

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Re: Tali'Thread vas Clan Zorah nar BSN 6.0

Postby Zero Suit Rosalina » January 3rd, 2017, 2:01 pm

    TheodoricFriede wrote:
    Azint wrote:
    Even then, I still gush about how wonderful Dead Money was.

    I managed to lock whats-his-nuts in the vault, AND draw 800 tons of gold all the way back to the Mojave Wasteland.


    The motto behind the dead money DLC is that you can't have it all and you have to learn to let it go.

    ....the players says otherwise.


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    Welcome back, Darkness. Funnily enough, I've only gone into NYC once in the four years I've been literally less than an hour away.

    Fun fact: Getting a silent migraine (heavy visual distortion) at 11 PM, calling it quits and going to bed at 12:30 AM when I couldn't read text anymore, then waking up at 3 AM with the belated pain is really a fun way to kick off a work day.

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    I was about to finalize my Chinese order when I realized I was ordering 2 kinds of fried chicken, fried rice, and french fries.

    My heart thanks me.


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    Just got a Stem controller in the mail, as a package with Deus Ex Mankind Divided.

    Not quite sure what I make of it, since I'm a keyboard and mouse PC master race.

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    Postby DarkStorm » January 3rd, 2017, 8:28 pm

    Vol wrote:Welcome back, Darkness. Funnily enough, I've only gone into NYC once in the four years I've been literally less than an hour away.

    Fun fact: Getting a silent migraine (heavy visual distortion) at 11 PM, calling it quits and going to bed at 12:30 AM when I couldn't read text anymore, then waking up at 3 AM with the belated pain is really a fun way to kick off a work day.


    Funny even more, I can get a job down there 2 to be exact. One where my friend works and another where my friend's god parent's work.

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    FINALLY, my new computer got shipped today. Goddamn holidays. Now I'll just have to walk around and be nervous about it getting fucked up during transport, since I know how bad that can get, with me working at a postal service and all that.

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    @Alien, you live in Italy, correct?

    In music Andante means "Walking speed". Is there an Italian word or phrase for 'driving speed'?


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