Bioware General (Mass Effect/Dragon Age/Other)

[Someone With Mass]

Well, nothing's truly indestructible. I wonder if the mass relays have some sort of containment system, since they don't emit heat or radiation. If that system is disrupted, it's possible that the massive amount of energy stored within them becomes unstable and thus they explode.

As for the Reapers, I'd imagine that the reason they don't use quantum shielding is that it gives them a huge tactical disadvantage. Not to mention that it'd be a waste of both energy and time, since they achieve nothing by doing it, save for maybe avoiding a killing blow, which would then only be followed up by another one the second the quantum shields drop.

[SciFlyBoy]

Well.

Thats Mass effect 2 done.

I continue, with trepidation, to Mass Effect 3.

Wait, you just did 1. How long did it take you to get 2 in?

[Dragaros]

Yeah, Reapers could quantum lock to avoid damage, but then they'd prevent themselves from being able to do anything either, and going in and out of quantum lock probably takes a lot of time, which would leave it vulnerable and unable to think/move/defend itself during the transition, making it easy pickings during a battle.

If a Reaper went into quantum lock when the Crucible sent out its R/B/G waves, would it be immune?

Are the mass relays always quantum locked, or does some computer system in the relays activate the lock only when an imminent catastrophic danger threatens their survivability? Because that one relay that goes to Illos survived its system's star going supernova, which didn't damage it but pushed it from its original position, but the Arrival DLC relay got torn in two by an asteroid, causing a giant explosion.

[Dragaros]

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Y ... tAndromeda

"It's explained that the Arks have a unique FTL drive that captures and recycles the static energy that would otherwise build up and destroy other ships unless discharged, thus bypassing the normal range limitation. The Reapers were noted to somehow be immune to such buildup, now we know how that's possible."

[Dragaros]

Well.

Thats Mass effect 2 done.

I continue, with trepidation, to Mass Effect 3.

Are you playing with a certain paragon/renegade perspective in mind, or winging it as you go?

[SciFlyBoy]

Yeah, Reapers could quantum lock to avoid damage, but then they'd prevent themselves from being able to do anything either, and going in and out of quantum lock probably takes a lot of time, which would leave it vulnerable and unable to think/move/defend itself during the transition, making it easy pickings during a battle.

If a Reaper went into quantum lock when the Crucible sent out its R/B/G waves, would it be immune?

Are the mass relays always quantum locked, or does some computer system in the relays activate the lock only when an imminent catastrophic danger threatens their survivability? Because that one relay that goes to Illos survived its system's star going supernova, which didn't damage it but pushed it from its original position, but the Arrival DLC relay got torn in two by an asteroid, causing a giant explosion.

Wouldn't a quantum lock be just a higher form of stasis?

[TheodoricFriede]

Wait, you just did 1. How long did it take you to get 2 in?

I believe i started on the 4th... And the playthrough was about 50 hours. So....

I have some time on my hands.

Are you playing with a certain paragon/renegade perspective in mind, or winging it as you go?

Its been long enough that Im kind of winging it, but this is the hardest Paragade i have ever played.

I feel like I have picked almost exclusively renegade options in the first couple hours of Mass Effect 3.
"I warned you assholes." "Kaidan, i dont need your shit right now." "Goddamn it Liara, for the last time, NO you cant have sex with me."

[SciFlyBoy]

"I warned you assholes." "Kaidan, i dont need your shit right now." "Goddamn it Liara, for the last time, NO you cant have sex with me."

How many times does she attempt to restart the ship? Doesn't every other character only give you one shot?

[TheodoricFriede]

How many times does she attempt to restart the ship? Doesn't every other character only give you one shot?

Officially only a couple times. But its heavily heavily implied in basically every scene where you are even a little friendly with her.

[SciFlyBoy]

She's like the dating bot in Futurama, always asking you to take a moment to register her.

[Alienmorph]

Too bad she doesn't have an insta-erase button like those do.

[TTTX]

Officially only a couple times. But its heavily heavily implied in basically every scene where you are even a little friendly with her.

Well the Writers did like her a lot after all she got her comic where she saved Shepards body and her own DLC.

To bad they didn't give a her a good stable personality or just actually made her interesting.

[TheodoricFriede]

Not to mention there are conversations you have to flat out avoid if you dont want the characters involved to act like you and Liara are a couple, and have Shepard not only not deny it, but play along.

Seriously, with Aytheta your choices are "Liara is special to me." or "Mind your own business." until you restart your actual romance. Which can take anywhere from 10 to 30 hours into the game.

[Alienmorph]

It gets even worse if you picked Ashley in ME1. I imported a custom made save of that, because I didn't want Liara drooling all over my Shepard.

Let's just say that things on Mars get very akward, and that you don't even get the pleasure to tell her to fuck off afterward.

Damn writers' pets...

[Riptide]

Well, nothing's truly indestructible. I wonder if the mass relays have some sort of containment system, since they don't emit heat or radiation. If that system is disrupted, it's possible that the massive amount of energy stored within them becomes unstable and thus they explode.

As for the Reapers, I'd imagine that the reason they don't use quantum shielding is that it gives them a huge tactical disadvantage. Not to mention that it'd be a waste of both energy and time, since they achieve nothing by doing it, save for maybe avoiding a killing blow, which would then only be followed up by another one the second the quantum shields drop.

Except in this case it would be. It's like flipping a coin, where heads you live, tails you die, but the shield locks it so you can only ever perceive heads. It makes the tails outcome impossible because you essentially exist outside of space-time.

[TheodoricFriede]

These are the same people that got rid of infinite ammunition for the military and marketed it as a positive change.

They lore break all the time.

[Someone With Mass]

These are the same people that got rid of infinite ammunition for the military and marketed it as a positive change.

They lore break all the time.

Except for the fact that it never was infinite.

[Su37]

Right, weren't the weapons originally loaded with solid blocks that the weapon would then create small projectiles from?

[TheodoricFriede]

Except for the fact that it never was infinite.

Im not stupid, Mass.

It wasn't infinite, but it was literally thousands of rounds before having to replace the ammunition block.

Right, weren't the weapons originally loaded with solid blocks that the weapon would then create small projectiles from?

Correct.

[TheodoricFriede]

Also Shepards Leather jacket is sssssssso fucking cool.

[Someone With Mass]

Im not stupid, Mass.

It wasn't infinite, but it was literally thousands of rounds before having to replace the ammunition block.

At which time, I'd say you'd have to replace the barrel/inner workings of the gun too. Metal tends to warp when exposed to that kind of heat.

[Deano]

https://twitter.com/masseffect/status/8 ... 9246557184

[Someone With Mass]

https://twitter.com/masseffect/status/818864999246557184

Krogan scientist? Never met krogan scientist worthy of term.

[Vol]

A woman in tech? Why, surely this must be fantasy!

But more seriously, I wonder if she's fertile, for non-perverted reasons. If she is, why the hell would she leave the galaxy when her people need her so badly? However, to start a viable population of krogan in Andromeda, she'd need to be.

[TheodoricFriede]

A woman in tech? Why, surely this must be fantasy!

But more seriously, I wonder if she's fertile, for non-perverted reasons. If she is, why the hell would she leave the galaxy when her people need her so badly? However, to start a viable population of krogan in Andromeda, she'd need to be.

Nice try Vol, but thats not the answer we were looking for.

The correct joke was "This really is Science Fiction!"

Most likely shes fertile, and she most likely left because, at the time, the krogan were sort of wallowing in filth on a post apocalyptic world. Shes probably actually smart, probably not interested in tribal bullshit, and probably see's this as the only way krogan will ever have some sort of fresh start.

Dont forget this takes place during Mass Effect 2. Wrex may not even be in charge yet.

[TTTX]

A woman in tech? Why, surely this must be fantasy!

But more seriously, I wonder if she's fertile, for non-perverted reasons. If she is, why the hell would she leave the galaxy when her people need her so badly? However, to start a viable population of krogan in Andromeda, she'd need to be.

Because Krogan culture are divided and pretty much shit before ME3?

[TheodoricFriede]

At which time, I'd say you'd have to replace the barrel/inner workings of the gun too. Metal tends to warp when exposed to that kind of heat.

Mass Effect guns are made out of ceramics.

[Someone With Mass]

Mass Effect guns are made out of ceramics.

I sincerely doubt ceramics would fair any better.

[TheodoricFriede]

I sincerely doubt ceramics would fair any better.

So you are arguing, what, that the guns that would react to the same conditions are somehow better when you limit them with thermal clips?

You do realize that the actual excuse given in game is "you can fire faster"?

[SciFlyBoy]

Mass Effect guns are made out of ceramics.

I sincerely doubt ceramics would fair any better.

Don't ceramics in general handle heat better than metals?

[Someone With Mass]

Don't ceramics in general handle heat better than metals?

They do, but we also have to consider the fact that these guns can accelerate projectiles several times faster than the speed of regular bullets and I'm pretty sure that's going to cause micro-fractures.

[TheodoricFriede]

Don't ceramics in general handle heat better than metals?

Significantly.

And these are high end future space magic ceramics.

[Someone With Mass]

So you are arguing, what, that the guns that would react to the same conditions are somehow better when you limit them with thermal clips?

You do realize that the actual excuse given in game is "you can fire faster"?

Well, yeah. That's how you beat kinetic barriers. Also, in terms of gameplay mechanics, the previous version was fucking lame. I'll gladly take a hand-wave if it means that I don't have to waste time pumping hundreds of ineffectual rounds into bullet sponges.

[Vol]

@Theo: I haven't touched an ME game since ME3, mind you, but weren't fertile females effectively in gilded cages on Tuchanka?

@TX: Right, the only females we know of at that time were a different clan that worked with Clan Urdnot, yes? Still remember that one guy who thought a kid was his and was getting all emotional about it.

[TTTX]

@TX: Right, the only females we know of at that time were a different clan that worked with Clan Urdnot, yes? Still remember that one guy who thought a kid was his and was getting all emotional about it.

Female and the young have their own clans away from the males to protect them and such.

If you want to eliminate a clan killing off the female clan belonging to the male one will ensure it's destruction.

[Dragaros]

Its been long enough that Im kind of winging it, but this is the hardest Paragade i have ever played.

I feel like I have picked almost exclusively renegade options in the first couple hours of Mass Effect 3.
"I warned you assholes." "Kaidan, i dont need your shit right now." "Goddamn it Liara, for the last time, NO you cant have sex with me."

I feel ya.

Remember to tell Grunt he's the best killer tank baby in the galaxy, and bring Tali along so she can have her spider freak out.

Yeah, its like, Liara, I appreciate your support, but you really need to understand that we're just friends.

ME3: Fuck the asari, and wipe away the debt.
Player: What debt?!
ME3: You know what you did.
Player: No, I don’t! Leave me alone! Stop trying to get me into her pants!
ME3: YOU CAN RUN BUT YOU CAN’T HIDE.
Player: Tali! Garrus! Save me!

https://twitter.com/masseffect/status/818864999246557184

She's done very well for herself to escape the self-destructive path her people were on--Wrex probably doesn't become big boss of the krogans and start issuing reforms until after the Andromeda arks depart--and acquired enough education and experience to join a massive scientific and technological undertaking such as this at such a high level.

Nakmor Kesh… Nakmor rings a bell. Wasn't there a Nakmor ambassador in Wrex's camp in ME2? On the second level, near the Shaman?

[Dragaros]

News on Mass Effect: Andromeda’s multiplayer beta likely coming this month

[TTTX]

She's done very well for herself to escape the self-destructive path her people were on--Wrex probably doesn't become big boss of the krogans and start issuing reforms until after the Andromeda arks depart--and acquired enough education and experience to join a massive scientific and technological undertaking such as this at such a high level.

Nakmor Kesh… Nakmor rings a bell. Wasn't there a Nakmor ambassador in Wrex's camp in ME2? On the second level, near the Shaman?

yep, it's a small clan though.

[TheodoricFriede]

@Theo: I haven't touched an ME game since ME3, mind you, but weren't fertile females effectively in gilded cages on Tuchanka?

Yes, but its not as though they were forced to stay on tuchanka.

The reason we didnt see any of them is the same reason we didnt see any turian women. Or Salarian women. or drell Women.

[SciFlyBoy]

It's like the entire series was made for FemShep's enjoyment.

[TheodoricFriede]

Kasumi is a horrible person.

[Alienmorph]

Wut? She's barely in ME3, what did she do to piss you off?

[Hackett923]

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/vi ... 6779&pid=1

[TheodoricFriede]

Wut? She's barely in ME3, what did she do to piss you off?

Its just a thought. More from Mass Effect 2.

She steals from museums.

Shes a horrible person.

[TheodoricFriede]

Also Jack becoming a teacher is by far the most unrealistic and absurd thing in the entire series.

[Vol]

Yes, but its not as though they were forced to stay on tuchanka.

Ah. I thought they were kept on planet by force, rather than choice, what with the population collapse and all.

[Riptide]

Also Jack becoming a teacher is by far the most unrealistic and absurd thing in the entire series.

Not really. Jack is one of if not the most powerful human biotic. The Alliance has always been desperate to get their biotics to perform on a level that is competitive with the other races. Plus she worked with Shepard, she probably got pushed through by Anderson or someone so they could keep an eye on her.

As for Jack's motivations, her wanting to ensure future biotics didn't grow up with the shit she went through and making sure they could defend themselves makes perfect sense. As Jack tells Miranda in the Citadel DLC, she grew as a person.

[TheodoricFriede]

Not really. .

Rip... I know you like Jack, but seriously...

She had to be kept in the most secure prison in the galaxy because she murder people, kidnapped people, stole military property, and blew up a space station.

And thats just the stuff we were told.

Shes a lunatic, clearly unstable, and realistically should have been left to rot in that prison. Being good with biotic kids doesn't suddenly nullify your crimes, nor does it make you more stable.

[Riptide]

Not really. .

Rip... I know you like Jack, but seriously...

She had to be kept in the most secure prison in the galaxy because she murder people, kidnapped people, stole military property, and blew up a space station.

And thats just the stuff we were told.

Shes a lunatic, clearly unstable, and realistically should have been left to rot in that prison. Being good with biotic kids doesn't suddenly nullify your crimes, nor does it make you more stable.

I never said it did. But lets be honest here, EVERYONE on Shepard's team is a killer. By your logic, every one of Shepard's squadmates should probably be in prison for something or other. And really, how many of Shepard's squad are stable? Jack is probably the most extreme example, but I'd argue she's not even the most morally reprehensible if only because for the first good portion of her life, she didn't know better.

In the end, her ending up on Grissom makes sense when you consider Shepard's Spectre Status, the fact that Anderson was no doubt keeping tabs on her, the Alliance's willingness to hire questionable biotic teachers (like the guy who trained Kaiden) to produce powerful biotics despite the cost, and that while Jack is a very maladjusted individual, she has shown consistent character growth through the series, and her winding up at Grissom, when all factors are in play, might not make sense for Jack before ME2, but it does by the time ME3 comes around because she's changed and grown as a person.

[TheodoricFriede]

If Mass Effect 3 took place 10 years after Mass Effect 2, id be more inclined to agree with you.