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[SciFlyBoy]

@ Maz, I find the hardest time to fight cravings is when I'm sitting and bored, which is anytime between 8am and 5pm Monday through Friday. I grabbed a bag of raisins and keep them on my desk and every 20 mins or so grab some and chew them just to keep my jaw busy so I don't grab the chocolate at my coworker's desk. It's fucking hard. You just have to push and push until your body learns to give it up. Chocolate isn't bad, two or three pieces after lunch everyday can be bad though.

If you're looking for some guidance; best thing to start with is just writing down everything you eat. Don't change anything, don't try to diet, just write it all down, what you normally eat. I use an app on my phone called 'Fat Secret' and I just put in what I ate for breakfast, what I ate for snack, everything. Just write it all down. Then after a week or two look at it and just visualize what you normally eat.

Easiest thing to do first is cut down on drinks, try by half. Next easiest thing is changing a little something in your diet, nothing drastic. Get a single burger instead of a double burger. Put one sausage in your omelet instead of two, drink half a cup of milk if you normally drink a full cup, little things. Drink more water. After some time your body will adjust. If you have to fight not eating something real hard, then cut back a little during a different meal or have half now and see if you're satisfied. The end result is learning that it's not the huge struggle that it seems at first and that you will survive if you don't eat that thing you crave.

Also look into those times where you DON"T have cravings. If you don't have cravings while you're doing some activity, then do more of that activity.

I live to eat. I think about what I'm making for dinner by about 10am. I'm planning my weekend meals on a Tuesday. Marking on the calendar when I get to go out and eat. And I can down a meal. I look forward to eating, I just can't WAIT for it! Eating raisins suck! Choosing the disgusting vegetables over the grilled cheese sucks! I know what you have to battle because I'm doing the same thing, hours everyday. Family makes it hard, too. I'ts going to be the toughest thing in the world, but take a little less then what your parents dish you. They may be heart broken and get angry, but that's the way it's supposed to be if you want to better yourself.

Keep me updated. I want to know how you're doing.

[Dragaros]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZqOusN1UsE

[Dragaros]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hc6tV3b2GEo

[Dragaros]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnYuNXolf4Y

[Raga]

My biggest issue is just plain laziness. When a delicious healthy thing is available to me I can eat it and be quite satisfied. For example, eating a seasoned avocado is just as delicious as a burger, but even for something as easy as the stinking avocado, I have to go into the store, wait in line, peel it, mash it up, and wash utensils and all I have to do for a burger is sit on my butt in a drive-through. I could get up 15 minutes earlier every day to make some fancy salad or wrap or whatever. Or I could just slept in and get something out of the vending machine. I don't actually eat that much, but a lot of what I eat is crap.

My other issue is that I'm a sucker for sugary drinks, which is weird because I don't have a sweet tooth for anything else. I pretty much never buy cookies, chips, or generic snack junk foods. But I can down soda or juice or sweet tea like a professional.

[SciFlyBoy]

My brother's the same way, only instead of sugary drinks it's milk. He can down a gallon in two days.

[TTTX]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T80HS6b_BmE&list=WL&index=11

[TTTX]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sT_aOdbydoY

[Dragaros]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbSrnjNGBdA

[Dragaros]

“Harambe-shaped Cheeto reaches bid of nearly $100K on eBay.”

[cannedcream]

My brother's the same way, only instead of sugary drinks it's milk. He can down a gallon in two days.

Hell, I can do both.

[Vol]

Whole milk is pure and good, and better for you than skim in fact.

My diet adjustment was pretty simple. Cut out the soda, dropped like 20 pounds. Dropped the rest of the sweets, another 10. Skip breakfast, another 10. Now my equilibrium is set at a small lunch, a normal sized dinner, and a protein shake. Along with a gallon of water a day.

Honestly it wasn't that rough, never had the hunger pangs, can go a full work day of manual labor without eating just fine, though by the end I start to flag. Body adjusts real quick to limited caloric intake, because that's our natural state. This time of excess is not what our ape bodies evolved to handle.

[Mobius_118]

That's all well and good for cutting weight, but for a serious body-builder, you have to increase your caloric intake just to give your body more to work with.

Doesn't mean eat all the cheetos, but it does mean eat more fish.

[Vol]

I had to cut bigly, my arms are like 3.5' long, trying to do basic bodyweight exercises at 210 with my limbs was real discouraging. Now I'm free to bulk back up, only I can't bring myself to eat junk again, so I'm thinking of mass gainers, heh. Ah, it's a journey, not a race, though.

[Mobius_118]

My latest creation of a PT program is 12 weeks of intensive training with weights and cardio.

I'm not looking forward to starting, but I know I'll hit it off and finish it. All the right supplements, and I'll be back to looking like a goddamn soldier. As a police officer.

Cutting out sodas for the past few weeks has been painful, but I'm already feeling pretty good.

[SciFlyBoy]

... can go a full work day of manual labor without eating just fine...

And I think the manual part of that helps. Your hands and body are doing something. It's the sitting in a plastic chair for nine hours labor that's a pain. If I was up and moving around, doing something with my hands, using my body I could focus on that, but sitting in an office where you can't move around, can only make the minimal noise and just sit there and drone and drone, it's the toughest for me. And then my thoughts wander to hunger.

Speaking of food, Philly Cheese Steak. With or without red sauce? Anyone have a strong opinion?

[Mobius_118]

Go for the philly, no sauce. Then try it with.

Only you can decide what is tasty.

[SciFlyBoy]

My latest creation of a PT program is 12 weeks of intensive training with weights and cardio.

I'm not looking forward to starting, but I know I'll hit it off and finish it. All the right supplements, and I'll be back to looking like a goddamn soldier. As a police officer....

It makes me think, back millennia ago, who was ripped?

Whenever I'm at the gym and I see a woman with a six pack abs I think, "The first woman with those abs was probably in the 1980s". Before then and the invention of the modern gym was there a woman on the planet besides a professional dancer who had abs? Every painting or sculpture I see of a woman in antiquity, she is not 'fit', not in the modern sense. Slender, yes. Beautiful, yes. I imagine the special cases were those women who were probably fighters (a genre that is related to dancing)

Men on the other hand, in antiquity could be ripped, but only athletes and probably soldiers that I know of. The average man maybe was thin if a little malnourished, but if he had proper nourishment and built muscles I'd see him as being big, but not ripped. I think the image of the ripped man is only tied to the military or athleticism, at least from antiquity to half a century ago, because they had routines like the intensive training you mentioned above. Everyone else though, if they were healthy and strong, were not ripped at all. Does that make any sense?

[SciFlyBoy]

Go for the philly, no sauce. Then try it with.

Only you can decide what is tasty.

I've tried it with sauce, I hate it. Everywhere I go I see them make it with it and think, "is that the way it's supposed to be?" I know the 21st century is the age of "have it your way", but I have a deep desire to experience food the way it was intended to be.

[TheodoricFriede]

I've tried it with sauce, I hate it. Everywhere I go I see them make it with it and think, "is that the way it's supposed to be?" I know the 21st century is the age of "have it your way", but I have a deep desire to experience food the way it was intended to be.

Bullshit, all you need on a cheese steak, traditionally, is the meat, the onions, some peppers, and cheese wiz.

Yes, cheese wiz. Thats the actual way you make one.

I dont like it with the onions, but i do add mushrooms.

[Mobius_118]

My latest creation of a PT program is 12 weeks of intensive training with weights and cardio.

I'm not looking forward to starting, but I know I'll hit it off and finish it. All the right supplements, and I'll be back to looking like a goddamn soldier. As a police officer....

It makes me think, back millennia ago, who was ripped?

Whenever I'm at the gym and I see a woman with a six pack abs I think, "The first woman with those abs was probably in the 1980s". Before then and the invention of the modern gym was there a woman on the planet besides a professional dancer who had abs? Every painting or sculpture I see of a woman in antiquity, she is not 'fit', not in the modern sense. Slender, yes. Beautiful, yes. I imagine the special cases were those women who were probably fighters (a genre that is related to dancing)

Men on the other hand, in antiquity could be ripped, but only athletes and probably soldiers that I know of. The average man maybe was thin if a little malnourished, but if he had proper nourishment and built muscles I'd see him as being big, but not ripped. I think the image of the ripped man is only tied to the military or athleticism, at least from antiquity to half a century ago, because they had routines like the intensive training you mentioned above. Everyone else though, if they were healthy and strong, were not ripped at all. Does that make any sense?

It does, but having a positive body image and knowing that the more fit you are, the easier your job is, makes getting 'ripped' an obtainable goal.

It is for anyone who works hard enough. Hell, just dropping down to a healthy weight for your height is a noble goal.

[Mazder]

@ Maz, I find the hardest time to fight cravings is when I'm sitting and bored, which is anytime between 8am and 5pm Monday through Friday. I grabbed a bag of raisins and keep them on my desk and every 20 mins or so grab some and chew them just to keep my jaw busy so I don't grab the chocolate at my coworker's desk. It's fucking hard. You just have to push and push until your body learns to give it up. Chocolate isn't bad, two or three pieces after lunch everyday can be bad though.

If you're looking for some guidance; best thing to start with is just writing down everything you eat. Don't change anything, don't try to diet, just write it all down, what you normally eat. I use an app on my phone called 'Fat Secret' and I just put in what I ate for breakfast, what I ate for snack, everything. Just write it all down. Then after a week or two look at it and just visualize what you normally eat.

Easiest thing to do first is cut down on drinks, try by half. Next easiest thing is changing a little something in your diet, nothing drastic. Get a single burger instead of a double burger. Put one sausage in your omelet instead of two, drink half a cup of milk if you normally drink a full cup, little things. Drink more water. After some time your body will adjust. If you have to fight not eating something real hard, then cut back a little during a different meal or have half now and see if you're satisfied. The end result is learning that it's not the huge struggle that it seems at first and that you will survive if you don't eat that thing you crave.

Also look into those times where you DON"T have cravings. If you don't have cravings while you're doing some activity, then do more of that activity.

I live to eat. I think about what I'm making for dinner by about 10am. I'm planning my weekend meals on a Tuesday. Marking on the calendar when I get to go out and eat. And I can down a meal. I look forward to eating, I just can't WAIT for it! Eating raisins suck! Choosing the disgusting vegetables over the grilled cheese sucks! I know what you have to battle because I'm doing the same thing, hours everyday. Family makes it hard, too. I'ts going to be the toughest thing in the world, but take a little less then what your parents dish you. They may be heart broken and get angry, but that's the way it's supposed to be if you want to better yourself.

Keep me updated. I want to know how you're doing.

Well I am cutting down on fizzy drinks as much as I can right now, having a little bit now and then is okay, once it's down to gone completely it's going to be better.
I need to get some kind of water filter as I live in a hard water area and it makes the water taste like arse.

I did try a food diary, I just kept forgetting about it because my routine building is shite.

My cravings, right now at least, appear to be random. They happen definitely between meals, but they're not AS structured as say "breakfast, elevenses, lunch, mid-afternoon snack, dinner, pre-bed snack". It's more freeform.

I am oddly okay on my veggies. I could stand to eat more fruit, but getting decent fresh fruit that is also ripe WHEN you want to eat it still costs an arm and a leg for the right time. Plus local fruit and veg shops are dying. I used to walk round the corner and pick up some strawberries, plums, greengages, cherries, all that good summer shit from my local greengrocers and now they're gone. Now I gotta go to the fooking supermarket for that shit and right now I can't be arsed to make the trip because I can't drive.

I have had an argument or two at my dad, telling him to "stop cooking so much and then dumping it on my plate, i'm 25 I don't need the 'you're a growing lad' aspect" so hopefully he takes it on board.
I know I don't HAVE to eat it but years of "if you don't clear your plate you don't get dessert" as a kid from my mum has stuck with me.

[Someone With Mass]

If I can get past my Pepsi problem (one big once a week and small ones to work) and get over how delicious Oreos are as well as eat some more fruit, then I think I'm set.

Easier said than done, though. It's probably because my regular food feels so pedestrian that I crave for something sweet once in a while.

[Vol]

@Sci: Well, for an idea, here's an ancient statue of Hercules:

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Notice the relatively flat pectorals compared to the incredibly strong core. And how his shoulders aren't bulbous, a sign of steroid use, but his calves are meaty, a place notoriously hard to add on mass.

You can infer what a very strong, active man of the time would look like by extrapolating from their portrayal of a demi-god.

[SciFlyBoy]

Notice the relatively flat pectorals compared to the incredibly strong core. And how his shoulders aren't bulbous, a sign of steroid use, but his calves are meaty, a place notoriously hard to add on mass.

You can infer what a very strong, active man of the time would look like by extrapolating from their portrayal of a demi-god.

I wonder when the modern image of bulk came into popularity, where upper body strength seems to be the focus? Was it n the 70's with Schwarzenegger?

[Vol]

I wonder when the modern image of bulk came into popularity, where upper body strength seems to be the focus? Was it n the 70's with Schwarzenegger?

"Bulk" as we think of now probably came with the discovery of steroids, honestly. It allowed the formation of body types that were biologically impossible otherwise. As to why the upper body is the focus, I imagine it's visibility. Who gives a shit about a guy's quads? Short-shorts for men aren't in fashion, so you never see them, but biceps, abs, and pecs are (somewhat) socially acceptable to show off.

A timeline:

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Before steroids->Some steroids->All the steroids

[Mobius_118]

Yeah steroid use is not something I condone.

[Dragaros]

Tons of new Zelda: Breath of the Wild details

Interesting...

[Dragaros]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ij7RBkjF_go

[Raga]

I wonder when the modern image of bulk came into popularity, where upper body strength seems to be the focus? Was it n the 70's with Schwarzenegger?

"Bulk" as we think of now probably came with the discovery of steroids, honestly. It allowed the formation of body types that were biologically impossible otherwise. As to why the upper body is the focus, I imagine it's visibility. Who gives a shit about a guy's quads? Short-shorts for men aren't in fashion, so you never see them, but biceps, abs, and pecs are (somewhat) socially acceptable to show off.

A timeline:

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Before steroids->Some steroids->All the steroids

The only one of those who looks like a member of the human species and not some mutant is the first one. Sincerely do not get the appeal.

[Mobius_118]

The problem I have with steroids, aside from the shrinking testicles issue, is that you have no real stamina and you grow boobs. At least Arnold built himself up. That guy on the far right probably has to have issues wiping his own ass.

[Vol]

I'm okay with steroid use, because hey, it's their bodies. Make them artificially big and strong, pay the price later. If you invented a zero downside steroid, you'd be the world's first trillionaire.

If that first guy worked on his pecs, he'd be a damn fine contender for natural bodybuilding competitions today, really.

@Raga: I imagine Arnold in his prime was about the limit of good taste for most women. The third guy probably pulls tail, but from fetishists. Or he's gay.

@Mob: I've heard it said they're decently strong, but have no endurance. Plus bones/tendons get fucked up real easily since they don't get toughened by the natural training process. I'm no expert though.

[Fallout]

Haven't posted here in a bit but I am glad to see it is still very active. ;P Life and such can get in the way!

[Vol]

Glad to see you're still alive too. CZ's made it through quite a few years now, and I suspect only Father Time will be the one to flip the lights off.

[Azint]

Cheesecake, I've gone too far deep into the rabbit hole. What server are you on in The Old Republic? I have all of my characters on Ebon Hawk.

[TTTX]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ry5gld868KM&index=10&list=WL

[Dragaros]

[Dragaros]

[TTTX]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDwYlzEMdl8&list=WL&index=11

[TTTX]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTsJ4Ne1z_U&index=11&list=WL

[DarkStorm]

Cheesecake, I've gone too far deep into the rabbit hole. What server are you on in The Old Republic? I have all of my characters on Ebon Hawk.

I remember a conversation awhile back about several of us playing SWTOR on Ebon Hawk I believe. I think I still have one on there.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

I'm on Jedi Covenant Azint. I got moved their during the initial server mergers.

[Dragaros]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Byqazj65G50

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7vAcThDWvE

[Dragaros]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7aa6rPmxN50

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qs_CBbAFPZ8

[Riptide]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7aa6rPmxN50

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qs_CBbAFPZ8

Holy shit just from the thumbnails there is some mad waifu potential going on here.

[Deano]

Moved here for relevance.

Plenty of Fate stuff...sigh. Can you pick a category of art or do they send you random art?

I would kill for a Rin Tohsaka hair design for Mass Effect, but I don't think the Alliance allows twin tails.

What I get is just generic sadly, I think you have to pay premium to specifically search for stuff which is very odd.

However if you get to one image, the suggested stuff on the right is pretty helpful.

[SciFlyBoy]

What I get is just generic sadly, I think you have to pay premium to specifically search for stuff which is very odd.

However if you get to one image, the suggested stuff on the right is pretty helpful.

And is she (in your pic) just fan art, or is she apart of a new series? I've been seeing this costume on her for a while now and I know there are tons of series in the fate universe as of late.

[Deano]

And is she (in your pic) just fan art, or is she apart of a new series? I've been seeing this costume on her for a while now and I know there are tons of series in the fate universe as of late.

I think it's an alt version of Rin from the Fate/Grand Order mobile game.

[SciFlyBoy]

So, Urban Dictionary states: A Waifu, in contrast to a harem, is the love between one man and his one and only Waifu. You treat your Waifu with the utmost respect and courtesy and most refuse to even fap to their beloved, seeing the act as an insult to the non-existent woman they have committed themselves to.
I have a lot of love for a lot of characters, but I think my waifu is Rin Tohsaka.

What other waifus or husbandos are out there?

[TheodoricFriede]

According to that definition...
None.