Bioware General (Mass Effect/Dragon Age/Other)

[UNiT]

Finished the game. Disregarding the occasional crash, performance and animation issues the game is great. Fuck all the haters.

[Azint]

Mass Effect is 3 for 3 now with the krogan squaddie being a knock-out. Drack may actually be my favorite character in the game.

[Su37]

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I unlocked the last of Alec's memories last night. It was pretty much what I expected, though Ellen being alive was surprising. I also enjoyed seeing Garrus's father.

[Riptide]

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I unlocked the last of Alec's memories last night. It was pretty much what I expected, though Ellen being alive was surprising. I also enjoyed seeing Garrus's father.

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What's interesting is that Garrus only talks to his father about the Reapers and everything if he survives the Suicide mission, indicating that they're willing to canonize choices.

[Riptide]

Mass Effect is 3 for 3 now with the krogan squaddie being a knock-out. Drack may actually be my favorite character in the game.

Drack and Vetra are my favorites, then Peebee, then Jaal, then Cora, and Liam brings up the rear.

[TheodoricFriede]

Mass Effect is 3 for 3 now with the krogan squaddie being a knock-out. Drack may actually be my favorite character in the game.

Personally id say 2 for 3. Grunt does nothing for me. But I do agree Drak is exceptional.

Drack and Vetra are my favorites, then Peebee, then Jaal, then Cora, and Liam brings up the rear.

My list would be Vetra, Drack, Jaal, Kallo, Peebee, Suvi, Liam, Lexi, Cora, Gil. I'm including crew, because they feel a lot more involved in this game.

But as I keep repeating, this is the first Bioware game where i have liked everyone. I still think the bottom three are better than most of the party in the series by far.

[Mazder]

I also liked everyone.
There wasn't a single party member I disliked. I disliked moments but I didn't hate them as a whole.

Now some random NPC's I really, really disliked.
Sloane Kelly for one, hate her for some reason, maybe because she's just ineffectual and has no real show for being what she is.
Director Tann. Slimy bureaucratic twat!
Morda, something just rubbed me the wrong way about her.
PeeBee's Rival, forgotten her name ATM but she's just another smug cunt who should just learn to shut up.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

Peebee's loyalty mission taught me a valuable lesson.

Shoot annoying people before they can cost you something.

[magnuskn]

Finished the game. Disregarding the occasional crash, performance and animation issues the game is great. Fuck all the haters.

Excuse me, but fuck you right back. The game has legitimate problems, aside from facial animations and my gripes are squarely in the writing department (and the terrible, terrible UI).

[Alienmorph]

Finished the game. Disregarding the occasional crash, performance and animation issues the game is great. Fuck all the haters.

Yeah, how DARE people hate a buggy, overpriced game that screws up with what little inner lore consistency the series had left, has been plagued by SJW shenanigans and takes away even further the ability of making you roleplay a character instead of just picking dialogue options!

Clearly there's nothing wrong in the game, and everyone who think otherwise is just an idiot. Except not. Not at all.

Personally I don't HATE ME:A. Is pretty much all I expected it to be, and less. There are things in it that infuriates me, yes, but I don't hate the game as an whole. Yet the bad outweights the good (which there IS a decent quantity of though) for me and I refuse to buy it. So how about that?

[Someone With Mass]

When it comes to the subtitles glitch, I often get the text, but not the audio. If I turn off the subtitles, I get the audio, but I can barely hear them.

Made me miss Vetra's comment on Messani's nickname for Ryder too. This is definitely one of the most annoying problems with the game, aside from the questionable interface design.

[TheodoricFriede]

Finished the game. Disregarding the occasional crash, performance and animation issues the game is great. Fuck all the haters.

This game is a buggy mess, but I'm still inclined to agree with you.

Most of the problems I have can, and probably will, be fixed with a patch. Animation issues dont bother me, they are in every Bioware game. UI is as cluttered as every other RPG ever made. Some of the design choices, unskippable space travel cinematic and such, are questionable, but fixable.

Aside from a couple planets just being too big, especially Eos, this is kind of everything i could want out of a Mass Effect.

[TTTX]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toXTF0kCTAc&index=13&list=WL

[Someone With Mass]

Fun fact about the Tempest: Its aerospace engineer was Teon'Adda vas Moreh. He once tricked an Omega scrap dealer who refused to sell to quarians by gluing memory foam to his suit and then casually leaned against the component of a drive core he wanted.

If the ship name sounds familiar, it's because it's the same ship Daro'Xen served on.

[TTTX]

Finished the game. Disregarding the occasional crash, performance and animation issues the game is great. Fuck all the haters.

considering that DA2 got around an 8 when it came out (when it also had many faults) and ME:A is better then that game, I agree to a point.

ME:A just gets a lot of backlash because of ME3 (ending and all that jazz.) and it does have problems, but it's not worse then some of the other BW titles released after BW became part of EA.

I would probably give this game around an 8 or 9, simply because there are way worse games then this and this game is overall good or even great depending on who you ask.

[Raga]

I honestly think the game got railroaded because the press is over-correcting for their stellar ME3 scores that ignored all the problems in that game (and it wasn't just the ending). I also think a core group of Bioware fans have basically gone off the rails every since DA2/ME3 and will absolutely never be mollified again. If Bioware released BG2 or KoToR level game today, they would still nitpick it to pieces. I have no idea why these people keep buying Bioware games at all since anything less tha pure perfection seems to incense them, but any time a Bioware game with some actual problems does come out they are generally the loudest voices yelling "See, see I *told* you it was awful, I *told* you!"

Bioware hating is like a sport now. I mean the game has problems, sure, but here's a sampling of some user reviews from metacritic:

"A total disaster."
"Abosolutely an abomination."
"This game's badness has left me so speechless I can't even write a review in fear of having post traumatic flashbacks of the horrors i just witnessed from this title."
"Absolute garbage and waste of my money, very bad game."

Histrionics, much? And that's just from page 1.

Also, a solid 25% are some ranting about "SJWs, feminism, ect. etc." I have 0 interest in grinding that particular axe but I think it's telling when that comes up over and over in 0 and 1 rated reviews.

[SciFlyBoy]

Engineer video

That's my drone? I thought that was SAM? My build is almost like his first. I think energy drain would be a better choice then invasion, as I'm dying so much I would like anything to get my shields up.

[Vol]

1) Vetra
2) Drack
3) Lexi
4) PeeBee
5) Kallo
6) Jaal
7) Cora
8) Gil
9) Suvi
10) Liam

Also tried MP for 2 rounds. Combat's a bit more frantic than I remember ME3 being, though starting with wee baby level 1 characters with level 1 guns might have something to do with it. Seems to be hosted rather than dedicated servers, so got some lag. But the currency system is oddly generous, 1 Bronze match paid out enough to buy a tier 2 pack, and tier 5 ones are only 5x that. Shitton of things to unlock and upgrade though, should keep people busy a long time.

I honestly think the game got railroaded because the press is over-correcting for their stellar ME3 scores that ignored all the problems in that game (and it wasn't just the ending).

Ayup.

That and riding the outrage wave for clicks. Not to say the game doesn't roundly deserve criticism, because it is deeply flawed, but given "standards" in similar titles (DA2, DA:I, ME3), this seems like a sacrificial lamb.

[TTTX]

Bioware hating is like a sport now.

I think pointing out hating, sexism, racism and such have become a sport, to the point it has become laughable how far people will go to to find that stuff in movies, games, in simple lines of text, etc.

[SciFlyBoy]

Also tried MP for 2 rounds. Combat's a bit more frantic than I remember ME3 being, though starting with wee baby level 1 characters with level 1 guns might have something to do with it. Seems to be hosted rather than dedicated servers, so got some lag. But the currency system is oddly generous, 1 Bronze match paid out enough to buy a tier 2 pack, and tier 5 ones are only 5x that. Shitton of things to unlock and upgrade though, should keep people busy a long time.

Watched my brother play MP for several hours, looks even more fun than ME3MP. He found a group of guys that were really funny and fun to play with though, that seems to make a different experience then just playing by yourself with the mute on.

[Raga]

Bioware hating is like a sport now.

I think pointing out hating, sexism, racism and such have become a sport, to the point it has become laughable how far people will go to to find that stuff in movies, games, in simple lines of text, etc.

See updated post above where I edited for clarification. Also, I never said you can't fall into the other side of inanity. For instance, I have seen tons of people accusing Bioware of homophobia, *Bioware* for god's sake, because the m/m romances are lackluster this time around.

[Someone With Mass]

I honestly think the game got railroaded because the press is over-correcting for their stellar ME3 scores that ignored all the problems in that game (and it wasn't just the ending). I also think a core group of Bioware fans have basically gone off the rails every since DA2/ME3 and will absolutely never be mollified again. If Bioware released BG2 or KoToR level game today, they would still nitpick it to pieces. I have no idea why these people keep buying Bioware games at all since anything less tha pure perfection seems to incense them, but any time a Bioware game with some actual problems does come out they are generally the loudest voices yelling "See, see I *told* you it was awful, I *told* you!"

Bioware hating is like a sport now.

Which is why I ignore/roll my eyes at them. There's not a single original thought in their heads and they're merely doing it to get attention or because it's the current trend.

I dislike parts about the game because I've actually experienced them with proper context and often wonder why they are like that when the older games did it better. Like the pointless inventory (there's no reason why you can't just dump everything aboard the Tempest, since you can't use anything in the field), the fetch quests or lack of proper cinematography when interacting with NPCs. Some dialogues are also of the no-real-person-would-ever-talk-like-that variety.

That said, there are things this game does well. I like/tolerate everyone on the Tempest and the annoying idiots I encountered early on reside thankfully on the Nexus. The mobility in combat is a nice change and the landscapes are actually worth taking in, even if they are a bit overwhelming with their size and amount of quests.

If it hadn't been for the bugs (like when enemies just despawn because I reloaded a save or when an ark quest won't progress because I choose the sensible route of sniping kett from a distance) and the clumsy UI that I have to expose myself to after nearly every battle, I'd say that this game is on about the same level as DA2 in terms of being underrated. Even then, those problems can be fixed, although I have a sneaking suspicion that it's not a high priority for EA.

[TTTX]

See updated post above where I edited for clarification. Also, I never said you can't fall into the other side of inanity. For instance, I have seen tons of people accusing Bioware of homophobia, *Bioware* for god's sake, because the m/m romances are lackluster this time around.

well I didn't mean to say I disagreed with you, I actually meant to say I agree with you.

I just wanted to clarify that that cause of the BW hate train seems to be more current problem with society at the moment where it seems to be the insanity on both sides on whatever they believe in have run amok.

I just have problems explaining myself, because english isn't my first Language and writing in general is a pain in ass for me.

[magnuskn]

I'm still on the "disappointed" side of things. I think I'm half through the game (Eos/Havarl 100% viability, freed the Angara leader and next mission is to go to Kedara) and I'm not feeling a connection to the characters. I actively dislike my protagonist, because he seems to be a weeny who just fell into his position and has not a shred of charisma. Most companions feel pretty "eh" or repeats of prior companions, but yeah, nobody is actively bad.

The main story is not very gripping either. It feels like a repeat of the Reaper story, only now with religious zealots instead of ideologically insane machine gods. The Angara have, like, 0,1% of a personality as a race. Aside from "family!", they got nothing to distinguish them from any other type of creature. Then again, the other alien races seem to have been homogenized into human behaviour as well, aside from the Krogan.

I know games which did create characters with instant attachment (Ciri in Witcher 3, for example), so it isn't that I can't connect to new characters, either.

And the fucking inventory and journal are both a disgrace. Can't find anything quickly in both of them.

[Raga]

See updated post above where I edited for clarification. Also, I never said you can't fall into the other side of inanity. For instance, I have seen tons of people accusing Bioware of homophobia, *Bioware* for god's sake, because the m/m romances are lackluster this time around.

well I didn't mean to say I disagreed with you, I actually meant to say I agree with you.

I just wanted to clarify that that cause of the BW hate train seems to be more current problem with society at the moment where it seems to be the insanity on both sides on whatever they believe in have run amok.

I just have problems explaining myself, because english isn't my first Language and writing in general is a pain in ass for me.

Ah, I see. Yea, and I agree.

[Zero Suit Rosalina]

Drack<Suvi <Vetra<Jaal<kallo <peebee <Liam<Lexi <Gil=Cora.
Amazing how I could of sworn that I was gonna like Cora. But I didn't. Don't know how to explain it but she is always so serious.

Ended up romancing Suvi. I thought she was just so fucking sweet and adorable. In a way I feel like she shares some personality traits to Tali. Her romantic scenes were really nice but I feel like there were a lack of them, sadly. I can't even invite her to my private quarters.

.....that big ass bed for nothing now.

Gonna try lots of MP. It's kinda fun but It feels like it's gonna take forever to start a decent collection. Apparently, I should just buy a bunch of shitty common packs and then move up. So that's what I'm doing.

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Also, how do you wake up your mother?
I collected all the memory triggers and figured out everything. Then i finished the game and totally forgot about her. Feels as it may be too late now since most of the nexus is gone

[Riptide]

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Also, how do you wake up your mother?
I collected all the memory triggers and figured out everything. Then i finished the game and totally forgot about her. Feels as it may be too late now since most of the nexus is gone

This is one of my biggest issues with the game. They told us it was going to be it's own story with a beginning middle and end, but it really isn't. Not unless they want to save ALL of these threads for DLC, which would be a lot to handle.

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It's never resolved. Same as the connection to The Illusive Man, the origin of the Scourge, the Primus, ect.

[Dragaros]

Having read and seen all the reviews I could find, watched a few playthroughs on youtube, and listened to this group's feedback, I'm gonna sit ME:A out until the quarian ark arrives for the sequel/DLC. I'll make my final decision then.

I read the Nexus Uprising book. Its just a detailed account of the Nexus arriving, getting fucked up by the Scourge, and all the problems they faced leading up to the rebellion and exiles. It really highlights just how incompetent and assholish the Nexus leadership is besides Kesh. A lot of it takes place from Sloane's perspective.

I finished up my recent ME2 playthrough: did all the main missions, the side missions, the dlc, and then wrapped up with the Citadel DLC. Whatever problems and complaints you can lay at that game's feet, the game is just so damn fun. And the camaraderie with your squadmates is still undeniable, even for those you don't really click or agree with. I didn't go into this run intending to romance anybody, but damn if Tali didn't fucking hook me in with her proverbial talons. My Shep didn't stand a chance. And the Citadel DLC is still pure, delicious cookie dough. "The best."

[Alienmorph]

That's another of my big issues with ME:A... I suppose the core storyline IS wrapped up, but there's a shitton of sub-plots and stuff that thei're clearly saving up for sequels and DLCs. And honestly... they sanitized so much the kind and range of players choices that the import save feature has no reason NOT to be implemented in the sequel...

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the only thing really worth importing is your Ryder's sex and face and who he or she ends up to, oh and who gets to be the de facto leader of the "new council" at the end. The story is much much much more linear... there is no Virmire or "choose the fate of this or that race" moment. Despite the fact you have the fate of all the Milky Way runaways AND of the Angara at your fingertips!

As for the DlCs, here's what I'm expecting:

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"Second wave" DlC - The Quarians and the other lesser races show up after barely escaping the Reapers arrival. The fact that there's no Milky Way to come back becomes public and shenanigans ensue.

Maybe something involving the Ryders' mom and SAM. Since AI must always be such a guddamn focus.

Either something adding a bunch of smaller quests and worlds to visit, or something hinting at what the Remnants really are/were.

I don't expect more than 2-3 major singleplayer add-ons, since I'm willing to bet that the majority of the remaining development effort is gonna go into polishing the current turd and to make multiplayer add-ons, gotta keep that microtransactions money train going!

[Vol]

@Zero, Rip: Yeah, they set up some clear plot hooks for DLC specifically. Those are some of them.

@Drag: Any good bits you want to give a synopsis of? I'm not planning on reading it, so I'm curious.

[UNiT]

Finished the game. Disregarding the occasional crash, performance and animation issues the game is great. Fuck all the haters.

Excuse me, but fuck you right back. The game has legitimate problems, aside from facial animations and my gripes are squarely in the writing department (and the terrible, terrible UI).

I never said the game doesn't have problems. Also clearly I have a different opinion about the game than you no need to be offended.

Finished the game. Disregarding the occasional crash, performance and animation issues the game is great. Fuck all the haters.

Yeah, how DARE people hate a buggy, overpriced game that screws up with what little inner lore consistency the series had left, has been plagued by SJW shenanigans and takes away even further the ability of making you roleplay a character instead of just picking dialogue options!

Clearly there's nothing wrong in the game, and everyone who think otherwise is just an idiot. Except not. Not at all.

Personally I don't HATE ME:A. Is pretty much all I expected it to be, and less. There are things in it that infuriates me, yes, but I don't hate the game as an whole. Yet the bad outweights the good (which there IS a decent quantity of though) for me and I refuse to buy it. So how about that?

Where did I say game is flawless? What do you mean game is overpriced? What exactly is wrong with the lore? I fail to see how the little SWJ stuff in game somehow breaks it.
Why are you taking this so personally? This is just an my opinion and everyone is entitled to their own opinions. From what I can see from your conversations you don't really care about the game anyway so why put so much effort to argue about it? If it is so bad then stop talking about it. Save yourself before it becomes an obsession.

[Alienmorph]

Why are you taking this so personally? This is just an my opinion and everyone is entitled to their own opinions. From what I can see from your conversations you don't really care about the game anyway so why put so much effort to argue about it? If it is so bad then stop talking about it. Save yourself before it becomes an obsession.

I suppose that turned out more angsty than I meant it. I'm actually perfectly fine. I just don't like the whole "You're not agreeing with me? Then CLEARLY you're just an hater!" mindset. And I mean it in general, not in a personal way. Also sadly, not liking and not caring for something are two entirely different things... if I were capable of being completely detached from ME at this point, I wouldn't be here, almost certainly.

[cannedcream]

Mass Effect is 3 for 3 now with the krogan squaddie being a knock-out. Drack may actually be my favorite character in the game.

Drack and Vetra are my favorites, then Peebee, then Jaal, then Cora, and Liam brings up the rear.

Vetra, Drack, Peebee, Jall, Liam, and Cora.

Every Bioware game has that one character that I won't ever take with me unless I have to, this game, it's Cora.

[cannedcream]

Finished the game. Disregarding the occasional crash, performance and animation issues the game is great. Fuck all the haters.

Pretty much agree.

The bugs are inexcusable, it never should have shipped yet, but at least they can be fixed.

As for the story and characters and general gameplay? Yeah, I'm down with it.

No idea how you finished it, though, I've been playing the shit out of this game since the 22nd and I still got a mountain of quests to do.

[UNiT]

Why are you taking this so personally? This is just an my opinion and everyone is entitled to their own opinions. From what I can see from your conversations you don't really care about the game anyway so why put so much effort to argue about it? If it is so bad then stop talking about it. Save yourself before it becomes an obsession.

I suppose that turned out more angsty than I meant it. I'm actually perfectly fine. I just don't like the whole "You're not agreeing with me? Then CLEARLY you're just an hater!" mindset. And I mean it in general, not in a personal way. Also sadly, not liking and not caring for something are two entirely different things... if I were capable of being completely detached from ME at this point, I wouldn't be here, almost certainly.

It's OK. Hopefully, maybe you will regain that spark that drove you to like Mass Effect in the first place. I went into this new game with a completely open mind with no shackles form the OT holding me back and like I say despite some of the flaws that will be fixed hopefully what I found was something akin to Mass Effect the Original over again.

[UNiT]

Finished the game. Disregarding the occasional crash, performance and animation issues the game is great. Fuck all the haters.

Pretty much agree.

The bugs are inexcusable, it never should have shipped yet, but at least they can be fixed.

As for the story and characters and general gameplay? Yeah, I'm down with it.

No idea how you finished it, though, I've been playing the shit out of this game since the 22nd and I still got a mountain of quests to do.

I had a lot of free time. I had some quests bug for me but currently am at 99% completion. Wasn't as bad as inquisition. Definitely an improvement. And left me wanting more.

[Dragaros]

@Drag: Any good bits you want to give a synopsis of? I'm not planning on reading it, so I'm curious.

If you want a detailed synopsis, you can read this:

http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Storyl ... s_Uprising


I found the novel rather boring overall to be honest, and only serves to make you really hate, or hate even more, most of the Nexus leadership.

[Alienmorph]

It's OK. Hopefully, maybe you will regain that spark that drove you to like Mass Effect in the first place. I went into this new game with a completely open mind with no shackles form the OT holding me back and like I say despite some of the flaws that will be fixed hopefully what I found was something akin to Mass Effect the Original over again.

And like I said, I'm glad other people are having a good time, at least. In the end I think ME:A it's one of those games... if you want to really like it there's enough in it to enjoy, if you don't, it has enough flaws to piss you off a great deal.

[Someone With Mass]

Finished the game. Disregarding the occasional crash, performance and animation issues the game is great. Fuck all the haters.

Pretty much agree.

The bugs are inexcusable, it never should have shipped yet, but at least they can be fixed.

As for the story and characters and general gameplay? Yeah, I'm down with it.

No idea how you finished it, though, I've been playing the shit out of this game since the 22nd and I still got a mountain of quests to do.

Yeah, same. My brain won't let me ignore them either. Except for the fetch task quests, because fuck them. Even the Ryder memory triggers are walking on that very thin line between being tedious and being intriguing.

[Mazder]

Okay, so finally finished ME:A.
Gonna compile some stuff tomorrow for a review I think as right now there is too much immediate perspective to be impartial.

[magnuskn]

The problem have with Drack is that he is a CTRL-C/CTRL-V copy of Uncle Wrex With More Headbutting from the Citadel DLC. Which is nice to have along, but originality... eeeeeeh.

[TheodoricFriede]

The problem have with Drack is that he is a CTRL-C/CTRL-V copy of Uncle Wrex With More Headbutting from the Citadel DLC. Which is nice to have along, but originality... eeeeeeh.

See, I dont see that at all.


To me Drak is very different. Drak is frankly a much better person than Wrex is. He knows serious regret, and serious love. He is convinced that he is a relic of the past, and will do more to hurt the krogan cause than to help it.

Wrex feels like a firm but fair war chief. Drak feels like a grizzled old man with a heart of gold.

Wrex can teach you how to fight. Drak can teach you how to scold a child and love a woman.

[Riptide]

The problem have with Drack is that he is a CTRL-C/CTRL-V copy of Uncle Wrex With More Headbutting from the Citadel DLC. Which is nice to have along, but originality... eeeeeeh.

Thing is, none of the characters are original. They're really the old cast with different quirks. Jaal is Javik but without the edgelord. Drack is Wrex with Zaeed's old merc grand-daddy vibes. Vetra is Garrus' swagger with Tali's charm. Liam is younger Jacob with an accent. Cora doesn't even rip off a character, she just straight rips off an entire race. Peebee is Liara with a large helping of Mordin and a dash of Kasumi.

I mean, the cast all have great moments. But they're moments you easily could of had with previous characters and it wouldn't change really anything. It's so obvious the team wanted to do more stuff with the old cast (look at all those dumb Foundation comics they did post ME3) but couldn't because the OT is over with and the setting gone blown up.

[Vol]

MP is so damn laggy. Almost impossible to play an Infiltrator when any given shot is a toss up if landed.

Drack's an old man, Wrex was middle-aged, there's a maturity and reflection there that Wrex was only starting to show, and Grunt was the young man, finding himself. We've gotten the full range of krogan manhood now.

[TheodoricFriede]

. Liam is younger Jacob with an accent. .

Don't be mean, hes heads and shoulders better than Jacob.

[Riptide]

We've gotten the full range of krogan manhood now.

And yet somehow, gotten none. I was disappointed when my FemRyder was given a chance to flirt with Drack but he kind of shot me down.

Not telling me EVERYTHING is prosthetic now, are you old man?

[Mazder]

The problem have with Drack is that he is a CTRL-C/CTRL-V copy of Uncle Wrex With More Headbutting from the Citadel DLC. Which is nice to have along, but originality... eeeeeeh.

Thing is, none of the characters are original. They're really the old cast with different quirks. Jaal is Javik but without the edgelord. Drack is Wrex with Zaeed's old merc grand-daddy vibes. Vetra is Garrus' swagger with Tali's charm. Liam is younger Jacob with an accent. Cora doesn't even rip off a character, she just straight rips off an entire race. Peebee is Liara with a large helping of Mordin and a dash of Kasumi.

I mean, the cast all have great moments. But they're moments you easily could of had with previous characters and it wouldn't change really anything. It's so obvious the team wanted to do more stuff with the old cast (look at all those dumb Foundation comics they did post ME3) but couldn't because the OT is over with and the setting gone blown up.

I dunno I wouldn't call Liam Jacob with an accent. Liam actually has a story and a character and had a father that was there in his life.

[TheodoricFriede]

And yet somehow, gotten none. I was disappointed when my FemRyder was given a chance to flirt with Drack but he kind of shot me down.

Not telling me EVERYTHING is prosthetic now, are you old man?

Id be into it.

[Riptide]

. Liam is younger Jacob with an accent. .

Don't be mean, hes heads and shoulders better than Jacob.

I'll agree with that.

Which is funny, because I ended up bitching him out in his loyalty mission, and afterward didn't want to spend any time with him. I mean, he has enough personality to be different from Jacob, but what's there is something I personally didn't like much. Garrus was a hothead too, but at least he never fucking jeopardized my security on a whim.

And god damned Cora. She's like, female Mac Walters. "OH LOOK AT THE ASARI THEY ARE ALL MY WAIFUS."

God damned weeablue. I can't BELIEVE that's now a thing.

[TheodoricFriede]

I respect that Liam acknowledges hes impatient. He never says that "Being a cop held me back" he says "I was not patient enough to be a cop".

Liam blames his problems with the system on himself, not others. Thats more than Jacob could say. To an extent its more than even Garrus could say.