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Re: Bioware General (Mass Effect/Dragon Age/Other)

Postby TheodoricFriede » July 15th, 2017, 1:40 am

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Ok David Gaider, formerly of Biowares Dragon Age team. You may be a spectacular asshole, but at least you have decent taste in romances.

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Re: Bioware General (Mass Effect/Dragon Age/Other)

Postby Vol » July 16th, 2017, 10:09 pm

Gaider is like that, one day he's saying dumb shit, the next, wisdom. Weekes, formerly of Bioware's Mass Effect team, in comparison, constantly says things I find stupid, but his writing is consistently good. Which is then compared against Josh Sawyer, of Obsidian, who makes me feel stupid when he talks.

ME4 came out on March 21st, so it's been less than 4 months still. Gosh. Feels longer, doesn't it? They have a 10 hour free trial now, but the game should have been a financial success anyway.

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Re: Bioware General (Mass Effect/Dragon Age/Other)

Postby Someone With Mass » July 17th, 2017, 10:41 am

Vol wrote:Gaider is like that, one day he's saying dumb shit, the next, wisdom. Weekes, formerly of Bioware's Mass Effect team, in comparison, constantly says things I find stupid, but his writing is consistently good. Which is then compared against Josh Sawyer, of Obsidian, who makes me feel stupid when he talks.

ME4 came out on March 21st, so it's been less than 4 months still. Gosh. Feels longer, doesn't it? They have a 10 hour free trial now, but the game should have been a financial success anyway.


This is one of the biggest reasons why I don't care about what writers and other developers do/say during their off-hours as long as it's not extremely offensive/ignorant. That one guy who had a clear and indisputable prejudice against white people can just fuck off, but I don't really care how PC the rest of them are as long as the work they put out is quality and not a blatant promotion of their social stances.





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Re: Bioware General (Mass Effect/Dragon Age/Other)

Postby Raga » July 17th, 2017, 2:49 pm

Gaider is just particularly irritating because he has this record of more or less calmly engaging with fans, then flaming out over negativity, relocating to some other forum and repeating the process. It's like, dude, if fans bug you, you are under 0 obligation to talk to them on social networks. If you *do* want to engage (which appears to be the case because he keeps coming back over and over), you need some thicker skin.

In the *old* Bioware boards, and I mean like, circa 2003-2009 boards, he was really cool and helpful, but Bioware was practically a cult company then and the boards were small.

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Postby Mazder » July 17th, 2017, 7:13 pm

Raga wrote:Gaider is just particularly irritating because he has this record of more or less calmly engaging with fans, then flaming out over negativity, relocating to some other forum and repeating the process. It's like, dude, if fans bug you, you are under 0 obligation to talk to them on social networks. If you *do* want to engage (which appears to be the case because he keeps coming back over and over), you need some thicker skin.

In the *old* Bioware boards, and I mean like, circa 2003-2009 boards, he was really cool and helpful, but Bioware was practically a cult company then and the boards were small.

Y'know I wouldn't be surprised if he was the loudest voice for shutting down the forums after such an interaction.

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I honestly don't know what to make of all that. On one hand, it's great that one of the veterans is returning. On the other hand...it's Casey Hudson.

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Re: Bioware General (Mass Effect/Dragon Age/Other)

Postby Alienmorph » July 18th, 2017, 2:26 pm

Meh. We all know it doesn't mean shit for ME. He's just gonna go work on Anthem, like most of the studio is.

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Postby Mazder » July 18th, 2017, 2:34 pm


Well, at least there would be some movement within Bioware.

But as AbridgedVegeta said;

https://youtu.be/rnzMkJocw6Q?t=9

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Re: Bioware General (Mass Effect/Dragon Age/Other)

Postby magnuskn » July 18th, 2017, 5:06 pm

Oh, for fucks sake. Now the idiot duo which gave us the worst ending in video game history is back together. Just great.

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Postby Someone With Mass » July 18th, 2017, 6:06 pm

I'm honestly curious about Anthem, since BioWare (or rather, EA) was ready to throw Mass Effect, one of its biggest franchises under the bus for this new IP. Either its a hilariously sad and poorly executed investment or it's going to be at least tolerable. Also, I'm not getting any Destiny vibes from it at all as so many other people are keen to point out. Co-op games that supports hubs and joining mid-mission existed long before Destiny did. Like Warframe.

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Re: Bioware General (Mass Effect/Dragon Age/Other)

Postby NCLanceman » July 18th, 2017, 7:27 pm

I for one welcome Casey Hudson back. No matter what, Mass Effect 3 was a better overall game than Andromeda, holy shit.

I still haven't actually finished Andromeda. I keep trying, but it feels like a chore. Every time I get back into it, I rediscover the fact that everything interesting is at the end of a long, boring collection quest, then I get into a fight that's fun for a while, but then I run into some clunky dialogue with some random NPC. I keep getting the feeling this game would be good if it'd stop pandering to my nostalgia for ten minutes and do something original, but when it does, it does something crazy like add this weird cyberpunk aesthetic to facial tattoos or something.

Anthem seems like it'd be neat too. Since I actually liked The Division and Destiny seems kinda neat, Anthem might be my kind of game.

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Re: Bioware General (Mass Effect/Dragon Age/Other)

Postby Someone With Mass » July 18th, 2017, 7:44 pm

NCLanceman wrote:I for one welcome Casey Hudson back. No matter what, Mass Effect 3 was a better overall game than Andromeda, holy shit.

I still haven't actually finished Andromeda. I keep trying, but it feels like a chore. Every time I get back into it, I rediscover the fact that everything interesting is at the end of a long, boring collection quest, then I get into a fight that's fun for a while, but then I run into some clunky dialogue with some random NPC. I keep getting the feeling this game would be good if it'd stop pandering to my nostalgia for ten minutes and do something original, but when it does, it does something crazy like add this weird cyberpunk aesthetic to facial tattoos or something.

Anthem seems like it'd be neat too. Since I actually liked The Division and Destiny seems kinda neat, Anthem might be my kind of game.


Yeah, I had to do Andromeda in micro-sessions too, because the fetch quests (have no place in this kind of game, by the way) started to stack up and even when my OCD for doing everything possible in a game was kicking in, I just couldn't be bothered, because I knew it'd lead to a ten second conversation with the exact same camera zoom and the exact same animations over and over again. I kept going if only because I knew there would be one of those few legitimately good moments between some characters. But holy hell, it felt like an endurance run more than an experience.

The inventory management really didn't help. I will never understand people that take joy in unclogging inventories like that with consistent intervals. I can see the fun/need in arranging stuff in a certain order, but in Andromeda, it's just like how it was in ME1. Is this thing better than the thing I currently have equipped? No. Destroy or reduce to basic components. Rinse and repeat until you start questioning what the hell you're doing with your life.

I completed ME3 in like a weekend. Andromeda took me more than two weeks. It only solidified my belief in that sometimes less is more.

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Re: Bioware General (Mass Effect/Dragon Age/Other)

Postby magnuskn » July 19th, 2017, 4:24 am

Someone With Mass wrote:Yeah, I had to do Andromeda in micro-sessions too, because the fetch quests (have no place in this kind of game, by the way) started to stack up and even when my OCD for doing everything possible in a game was kicking in, I just couldn't be bothered, because I knew it'd lead to a ten second conversation with the exact same camera zoom and the exact same animations over and over again. I kept going if only because I knew there would be one of those few legitimately good moments between some characters. But holy hell, it felt like an endurance run more than an experience.

I completed ME3 in like a weekend. Andromeda took me more than two weeks. It only solidified my belief in that sometimes less is more.


Yeah, the insane amount of fetch-quest bullshit would be alone a reason why I would never want to play ME:A again. Same with DA:I.

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Re: Bioware General (Mass Effect/Dragon Age/Other)

Postby Raga » July 19th, 2017, 4:20 pm

Someone With Mass wrote:The inventory management really didn't help. I will never understand people that take joy in unclogging inventories like that with consistent intervals.


Whoever they are, I sincerely invite them to come investigate behind the seat of my truck or else all the crap strewn in miscellaneous boxes about the house.

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Re: Bioware General (Mass Effect/Dragon Age/Other)

Postby Vol » July 20th, 2017, 11:38 am

I actually enjoyed the theory behind ME1's inventory. If the weapons/armor had been made to actually matter beyond straight upgrades and then a bunch of lemons, and there had been an "Convert All to Gel" button, and so on, that's how I'd have liked it to carry forward. That and a GUI designed for a fucking mouse and keyboard.

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Postby Someone With Mass » July 20th, 2017, 12:56 pm

Vol wrote:I actually enjoyed the theory behind ME1's inventory. If the weapons/armor had been made to actually matter beyond straight upgrades and then a bunch of lemons, and there had been an "Convert All to Gel" button, and so on, that's how I'd have liked it to carry forward. That and a GUI designed for a fucking mouse and keyboard.


If it had been closer to the inventory in Borderlands where you can sort stuff after rank, name or manufacturer and mark trash you don't want to quick sell/delete/whatever later, then I wouldn't have had that many problems with it.

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Postby Vol » July 20th, 2017, 1:13 pm

I would've gone full sperglord with it, integrate into the story even more. Make the company licenses, brands, models, a whole system unto itself. Would work better with ME2, where you're not technically a Spectre. Rework omnigel into some sort of repair system maybe, or an easy way to convert weapons into credits, create a limited local economy so you can't unload ten million credits worth of gear on a hotdog vendor, make the old heatsink weapons purchasable, etc. But hey, nobody asked me.

"Ah, Commander Shepard, you're less dead than we thought. Unfortunately, our ability to sell you from our Colossus XXX line is limited by the expiration of your license, and as you are no longer an active part of the Alliance or the Spectre program, we cannot grant you a new one."

"Wait, your newest armor line is ""XXX""?"

"Yes. Our marketing department convinced us that skipping ahead to that iteration would go well with the, ""You'll feel drunk with power!"" campaign."

"That's not what-"

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Postby Someone With Mass » July 20th, 2017, 1:26 pm

That's another thing I missed in Andromeda. The different equipment manufacturers didn't have a strong presence like they did in the trilogy.

"Hey, you know those guys that made that shotgun you love so much? They make suits for quarians and omni-tools too!"

Also, I wish ME2 had given Shepard more access to the black market stuff. Weapons that are banned in Citadel space and such.

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Postby Vol » July 21st, 2017, 5:16 pm

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Postby Vol » July 21st, 2017, 8:05 pm

Someone With Mass wrote:That's another thing I missed in Andromeda. The different equipment manufacturers didn't have a strong presence like they did in the trilogy.

"Hey, you know those guys that made that shotgun you love so much? They make suits for quarians and omni-tools too!"

Also, I wish ME2 had given Shepard more access to the black market stuff. Weapons that are banned in Citadel space and such.

Were there manufacturers? All I recall is Milkway/Andromeda/Remnants, and I assume some fluff about how the weapons work/origins.

Ah, I really like that in ME1. Shops having humanoid and non selections, making note of what guys sold quarian stuff too, getting access to the good stuff as lightly justified in-game, rather than linear progression. It needed a lot of work, but ME2 chucked out a lot in the process.






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Re: Bioware General (Mass Effect/Dragon Age/Other)

Postby TheodoricFriede » July 25th, 2017, 6:32 pm


I probably want this dlc more than anyone in this group, but at this point even I know that its just not going to happen.

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Postby Mazder » July 25th, 2017, 7:09 pm

TheodoricFriede wrote:

I probably want this dlc more than anyone in this group, but at this point even I know that its just not going to happen.

Pretty much.
I mean the only reason this piece is being sold is it looks cool, it involves one of the main characters and Bioware is a company and companies like money.

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Re: Bioware General (Mass Effect/Dragon Age/Other)

Postby Alienmorph » July 25th, 2017, 8:02 pm

The art for Andromeda was obviously done prior the release. Like the guy in the video says, maybe that Ryder illustration was done at a point when we did have five arks in the game (you know... before they had to cut corners to the extreme to even HAVE a game to release) or, since it's been quite a few months after release, the plan was to release the Quarian Ark DlC by now.

It really really doesn't hint to anything, if you ask me. We, or rather whoever plays ME:A, is gonna be lucky if the quarian ark becomes a multiplayer campaign, just to salvage some early made assetts, and keep the microtransactions train last abit longer.

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Postby Dragaros » July 27th, 2017, 3:04 pm

"In this exciting conclusion, Tiran Kandros stands off against Agent Zeta! As the truth is revealed about an Andromeda Initiative project, Tiran is faced with a gut-wrenching decision. Tying in to Mass Effect: Andromeda, writers Jeremy Barlow and John Dombrow and artist Gabriel Guzman team up to create the next exciting chapter of the Mass Effect comics series! Publication Date: October 25, 2017."

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Is that a Reaper core?


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Postby Alienmorph » July 27th, 2017, 3:11 pm

Dragaros wrote:Is that a Reaper core?


It suuure is... because once again, screw variety. Everything has to be about the Reapers, Cerberus or both. EEEEVERYTHING!

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Postby SciFlyBoy » July 27th, 2017, 4:54 pm


I'm still a big fan of the mansion in Kasumi's mission and the planet on Overlord.

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Postby TheodoricFriede » July 28th, 2017, 2:03 am

From the EA earnings report.

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See now I'm really confused... Because that's A LOT of money to have been made and not try to make more on DLC.

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Re: Bioware General (Mass Effect/Dragon Age/Other)

Postby UNiT » July 28th, 2017, 4:34 am

https://youtu.be/UiG05eEZctk

Some of this I've never heard. Probably bugged or exclusive to doing shit post meridian.

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Postby TheodoricFriede » July 28th, 2017, 4:38 am

UNiT wrote:https://youtu.be/UiG05eEZctk

Some of this I've never heard. Probably bugged or exclusive to doing shit post meridian.

Its in game. You just have to go back to Meridian. Theres actually a decent chunk of Dialog there post game.


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Postby TheodoricFriede » July 29th, 2017, 5:27 am


TheodoricFriede wrote:From the EA earnings report.

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See now I'm really confused... Because that's A LOT of money to have been made and not try to make more on DLC.



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