Politics/Slapfights - Ancient history to modern day!

[Mazder]

So it's Hillary vs trump all over again, Euro style.

Let's hope your side of the pond doesn't fuck up like we did.

Not really because May/Boris is nothing like Trump and Corbyn is not blindly followed the way Shillary is. Plus there are at least 3 more parties to choose from that actually have a chance, plus the Irish lot if things get truly desperate again.

Sadly it all hangs on if this current government gets it's act together and stops stalling and ruining everything and the opposition to not immediately also try to fuck it up by swinging things tot he other absurdity. We need more co-operation now than we ever did before but Parliament is so divided like a stupid Yank High School with it's cliques that nothing is really getting done any time soon.

Sometimes I really do wish the Queen'd try taking it all back so we at least know what's gonna happen.

[Mobius_118]

Hillary is not "blindly followed". She's a clearly better choice than trump.

It's like a choice between a regular Ford Taurus and a Ford Pinto. The Pinto/trump is going to explode on you eventually.

Also, maybe Brexit should've failed, because you limeys fucked yourselves with that.

[Mazder]

Hillary is not "blindly followed". She's a clearly better choice than trump.

It's like a choice between a regular Ford Taurus and a Ford Pinto. The Pinto/trump is going to explode on you eventually.

Also, maybe Brexit should've failed, because you limeys fucked yourselves with that.

Lesser of two evils doesn't make a person good.

Well sadly we'll not know if Brexit was a failure or not ultil at least 2030 when we've had enough time after it's conclusion to judge if the decision was a good one. That's IF it still goes through. It's early days as of yet and it'll be at least 2021 before all the paperwork/transition is fully complete if it does happen.

[Mobius_118]

It wasn't a choice between the lesser of two evils.

It was a choice between an accomplished politician who can be a world leader that can improve the country and the world continuing on from President Obama's policies that did help make the world a better place, and some failed businessman that clearly is not all there mentally.

[TTTX]

Education is not a panacea, lionizing teachers is fetishizing childhood authority figures, experience and drive is exponentially more valuable than any number of years of sitting in a classroom. Abolish public education, indoctrination centers of lies and half-truths, siphoning up billions, and retarding personal growth by allowing government to raise the nation's children in controlled environments.

Vote Vol 2028.

PS Don't drink tap water, frogs gay, etc.

But seriously, it is odd how sacrosanct I see people get about teachers and public school, as if the cure for all ills is getting more of it, better, and poof, then humans will be lockstep in agreeing on everything. I probably said this all before, actually. But I'm beginning to believe that children would be better served in life spending their formative period with their families/shadowing their parents with some minimal amount of schooling, to establish a baseline of information (A year or two?).

Hell I'll vote for you, but I live in Denmark so it wouldn't mean anything.

[TTTX]

It wasn't a choice between the lesser of two evils.

It was a choice between an accomplished politician who can be a world leader that can improve the country and the world continuing on from President Obama's policies that did help make the world a better place, and some failed businessman that clearly is not all there mentally.

We'll never know for sure.

Personally as an outsider looking in I don't think she would have been better at least not going by her campaign anyway.

[DarkStorm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33UEg6N7xq8

Oh look another news station making up fakes news.

[Mobius_118]

It wasn't a choice between the lesser of two evils.

It was a choice between an accomplished politician who can be a world leader that can improve the country and the world continuing on from President Obama's policies that did help make the world a better place, and some failed businessman that clearly is not all there mentally.

We'll never know for sure.

Personally as an outsider looking in I don't think she would have been better at least not going by her campaign anyway.

That was the problem, a lot of less involved people saw that and based their choice on that. Those of us who've paid attention know she's a far better politician than anything the GOP managed to scrape up.

Trump, on the other hand, says the best words to manipulate the easily influenced. He has yet to deliver anywhere on his campaign promises, and he won't. He's playing golf, raking in that taxpayer money, and getting rid of corporate constraints to fuck the populace over while the rich get obscenely richer.

Ah, but he pisses on people, so totally worth it. It's all for laughs for assholes now.

[DarkStorm]

https://youtu.be/AvrPD6MKF38?t=55m5s

If anyone is curious the stuff Trump has actually done cause we all know they dont talk about that.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

It wasn't a choice between the lesser of two evils.

It was a choice between an accomplished politician who can be a world leader that can improve the country and the world continuing on from President Obama's policies that did help make the world a better place, and some failed businessman that clearly is not all there mentally.

We'll never know for sure.

Personally as an outsider looking in I don't think she would have been better at least not going by her campaign anyway.

That was the problem, a lot of less involved people saw that and based their choice on that. Those of us who've paid attention know she's a far better politician than anything the GOP managed to scrape up.

Trump, on the other hand, says the best words to manipulate the easily influenced. He has yet to deliver anywhere on his campaign promises, and he won't. He's playing golf, raking in that taxpayer money, and getting rid of corporate constraints to fuck the populace over while the rich get obscenely richer.

Ah, but he pisses on people, so totally worth it. It's all for laughs for assholes now.

You literally cannot be real. You have to be a Poe.

Nobody swallows this much media cock and means it.

Holy fucking shit.

[Mazder]

It wasn't a choice between the lesser of two evils.

It was a choice between an accomplished politician who can be a world leader that can improve the country and the world continuing on from President Obama's policies that did help make the world a better place, and some failed businessman that clearly is not all there mentally.

It doesn't matter how "accomplished" she is/was if she was still a shitheel, which she still is. She cares as much about her m=image as Trump does, maybe even moreso.
That still doesn't make her a good fit that there was no-one man enough to step up....except their was and the Democrats threw him under the bus because it was "hastag her turn" or some other social media bullshit reason.

That was the problem, a lot of less involved people saw that and based their choice on that. Those of us who've paid attention know she's a far better politician than anything the GOP managed to scrape up.

Trump, on the other hand, says the best words to manipulate the easily influenced. He has yet to deliver anywhere on his campaign promises, and he won't. He's playing golf, raking in that taxpayer money, and getting rid of corporate constraints to fuck the populace over while the rich get obscenely richer.

Ah, but he pisses on people, so totally worth it. It's all for laughs for assholes now.

So the problem Hillary lost her campaign was because she wasn't very good at making people pay attention to her in her campaign?
All that reads to me is she can't hold anyone's attention or get them involved. That doesn't sound like an inspiring leader.
And again, being the last resort doesn't mean you're "good" it just means you're the last resort.

Say what you will about Trump at least he gets people to notice him. Most people are more likely to go with a politician that gets them involved in the political process, call it manipulation if you want but at the end of the day all it shows is he knows people better than Hillary as he knows how to exploit them and she doesn't.
As a politician you need to know how to read and affect people as much as you can. If you can't you will not be in charge for long.

[TTTX]

That was the problem, a lot of less involved people saw that and based their choice on that. Those of us who've paid attention know she's a far better politician than anything the GOP managed to scrape up.

Trump, on the other hand, says the best words to manipulate the easily influenced. He has yet to deliver anywhere on his campaign promises, and he won't. He's playing golf, raking in that taxpayer money, and getting rid of corporate constraints to fuck the populace over while the rich get obscenely richer.

Ah, but he pisses on people, so totally worth it. It's all for laughs for assholes now.

Well she obviously sucked as politician as she lost to Trump.

[Mobius_118]

Well she obviously sucked as politician as she lost to Trump.

No we just have a corrupt system that at times overpowers logic and reason.

Hence why someone who won the popular vote lost to a chud.

You literally cannot be real. You have to be a Poe.

Nobody swallows this much media cock and means it.

Holy fucking shit.

You're the biggest cock sucker here, man.

You don't work in government, you don't know shit. All you have are trumps shriveled testicles in your mouth.

I'd ask you to do the right thing and be quiet, but since you're a trump supporter, I suspect you'll be just as indignant as a fucking child.

[TTTX]

No we just have a corrupt system that at times overpowers logic and reason.

Hence why someone who won the popular vote lost to a chud.

She isn't the first to lose with popular vote, by an old election system that could probably use an update.

so it's more of a flawed system then a corrupt one at least when it comes to the votes and how they matter.

[Mobius_118]

No we just have a corrupt system that at times overpowers logic and reason.

Hence why someone who won the popular vote lost to a chud.

She isn't the first to lose with popular vote, by an old election system that could probably use an update.

so it's more of a flawed system then a corrupt one at least when it comes to the votes and how they matter.

That and the lobbyists. Republicans are bought and paid for.

The fact that the GOP frequently fights any sort of progress is evident of that.

[Mazder]

That and the lobbyists. Republicans are bought and paid for.

The fact that the GOP frequently fights any sort of progress is evident of that.

Considering this last election was pretty much down to one pocket or another once you can get rid of lobbying all together then you'd do better.
Sadly The Democrats lobby/pay their way just as much.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

That and the lobbyists. Republicans are bought and paid for.

The fact that the GOP frequently fights any sort of progress is evident of that.

Considering this last election was pretty much down to one pocket or another once you can get rid of lobbying all together then you'd do better.
Sadly The Democrats lobby/pay their way just as much.

Then you find out Hilary spent vastly more than the God Emperor did. All the corporate interests were backing her. The media. And they lost.

To an orange TV man. It was the greatest spectacle in modern American politics.

[Mobius_118]

And you call me crazy.

Just remember to swallow that gravy, you little corporate whore.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

>Supported Shilary Clinton

>Calls someone else a corporate whore

Top
Fucking
Kek

You're a meme Mobius. I literally take quotes of your posts and share them with people. It's a kind of bile fascination. Like watching a train wreck that backed a corrupt hag of a candidate.

[Mobius_118]

I do the same thing with yours. The intelligible ones, anyway.

Even my libertarian friends think you're a fucking tool. You're a fucking joke, and they ask me daily if you said anything noteworthy.

And your god emperor is a fucking imbecile as well. How fitting that you follow his example.

[DarkStorm]

No we just have a corrupt system that at times overpowers logic and reason.

Hence why someone who won the popular vote lost to a chud.

She isn't the first to lose with popular vote, by an old election system that could probably use an update.

so it's more of a flawed system then a corrupt one at least when it comes to the votes and how they matter.

Well you cant do it by population cause only a couple of states will get a voice cause they have the most population. Which means candidates only have to win those said states and ignore the rest.

[Raga]

Hillary is not "blindly followed". She's a clearly better choice than trump.

It's like a choice between a regular Ford Taurus and a Ford Pinto. The Pinto/trump is going to explode on you eventually.

Also, maybe Brexit should've failed, because you limeys fucked yourselves with that.

Depends on what they wanted from it. I had this conversation with my sister shortly after it happened. If it's basically like "look we are tired of being a Great Power and we just want to be Switzerland instead: a prosperous country that minds its own business, sets its own trade terms, and is not really a go to spot for solving world problems or migration" then they can definitely do that. If it was done for some bizarro reason of trying to bring back the feeling of the glory days of the British Empire or something (which it seems to have been for some people), obviously that's a pipe dream.

Historically, Switzerland has been helped in that its surround by mountains and thus a nightmare to invade for not much reward, but Britain is a big island so its possible for them as well.

[Raga]

But seriously, it is odd how sacrosanct I see people get about teachers and public school, as if the cure for all ills is getting more of it, better, and poof, then humans will be lockstep in agreeing on everything. I probably said this all before, actually. But I'm beginning to believe that children would be better served in life spending their formative period with their families/shadowing their parents with some minimal amount of schooling, to establish a baseline of information (A year or two?).

My thing with public schools is that pretty much everybody needs 4 things these to have even basic functionality as an adult: ability to read, ability to do basic math (arithmetic), basic computing skills, and basic ability to interact with other humans: understanding standards of hygiene, not picking arbitrary fights, etc. So long as parents or schools instill those things, I feel like the kid can learn or be taught anything else they might need to know. But if you are like 30 years old with a 3rd grade reading level and no understanding of computers, you are pretty much fucked, doomed to chronic poverty, and will probably be on the public dole your whole life. So public schools are basically there to instill those things when parents can't or won't do that for their kids.

However, its insane to think that public schools can do much more than that. The issue isn't with public schools existing. It's with treating them like panaceas as you said.

[Mazder]

Depends on what they wanted from it. I had this conversation with my sister shortly after it happened. If it's basically like "look we are tired of being a Great Power and we just want to be Switzerland instead: a prosperous country that minds its own business, sets its own trade terms, and is not really a go to spot for solving world problems or migration" then they can definitely do that. If it was done for some bizarro reason of trying to bring back the feeling of the glory days of the British Empire or something (which it seems to have been for some people), obviously that's a pipe dream.

Historically, Switzerland has been helped in that its surround by mountains and thus a nightmare to invade for not much reward, but Britain is a big island so its possible for them as well.

It's honestly mostly a mix.
We wish to bring back some of our old pride through becoming kinda like switzerland, hoping some of out old gravitas will hold through and we'll end up becoming a decent force for at least being listened to by the mainland again.
Our main concerns were the fact there was no room for reform, everything was dictated by an unelected comittee and everything was going a little too far towards Germany again.
At least that's how it felt to most people in my area.

[Raga]

It wasn't a choice between the lesser of two evils.

It was a choice between an accomplished politician who can be a world leader that can improve the country and the world continuing on from President Obama's policies that did help make the world a better place, and some failed businessman that clearly is not all there mentally.

We'll never know for sure.

Personally as an outsider looking in I don't think she would have been better at least not going by her campaign anyway.

I voted for her only because she wasn't obviously self-destructive like Trump is but it was a very last minute decision. I was going to sit that election out. It was a very bad choice: semi competent politician who has a reputation for corruption and a vision for the country I don't like or else blowhard moron who has some things I want to see done and other I don't with none of the requisite skill to get them done.

Basically: offensive incompetent idiot who will ruin our reputation but probably accomplish next to nothing in terms of actually harmful policy or probably corrupt person who will either maintain the toxic status quo or push us off farther in a bad direction.

*Three post obsessive limit.

[TLock]

It's honestly mostly a mix.
We wish to bring back some of our old pride through becoming kinda like switzerland, hoping some of out old gravitas will hold through and we'll end up becoming a decent force for at least being listened to by the mainland again.
Our main concerns were the fact there was no room for reform, everything was dictated by an unelected comittee and everything was going a little too far towards Germany again.
At least that's how it felt to most people in my area.

Which is ironical considering that many EU reforms that have happened up to Brexit where actually pushed through by the UK. It may not have been publicized greatly, but the UK had a lot of support from the Nordic countries as well as parts of Eastern Europe when it came to the EU. It only began to decrease when they began to threaten to leave because not all their demands were being met when it came to certain policies.

[Vol]

My thing with public schools is that pretty much everybody needs 4 things these to have even basic functionality as an adult: ability to read, ability to do basic math (arithmetic), basic computing skills, and basic ability to interact with other humans: understanding standards of hygiene, not picking arbitrary fights, etc. So long as parents or schools instill those things, I feel like the kid can learn or be taught anything else they might need to know. But if you are like 30 years old with a 3rd grade reading level and no understanding of computers, you are pretty much fucked, doomed to chronic poverty, and will probably be on the public dole your whole life. So public schools are basically there to instill those things when parents can't or won't do that for their kids.

However, its insane to think that public schools can do much more than that. The issue isn't with public schools existing. It's with treating them like panaceas as you said.

That's what I was considering as the baseline, basic maths, literacy, ability to use computer. Which you could probably do in a single year, really. Instead of teaching necessary math over 6-8 years, wait until the kid is around 13, then 1 year of mandatory schooling, and assuming they'd not learned any of this stuff already, they'd pick it up real quick. In practice, I would think communal education would take over by necessity to teach math, reading, tech skills, social rules, and hygiene (Though even in our highly educated populace, you goobers disgust me, and I think everything in public is coated in filth). Because in lieu of spending all day every day with other kids and this weird school culture created by the adults, you'd be with adults, in the real world, or at home, learning practical skills.

Well, I'm a living counterpoint, but also representative of nothing. But I would posit that a 30 year old with a 3rd grade reading level and no computer skills would be better served having spent his life working than having spent 12 years in school trying to ram knowledge into a granite block. I start with the premise that not all people are capable of becoming well educated, or desire to, or need to, and mandating that the state force children into 12 years of non-essential learning is doing a massive disservice to a non-zero amount of people.

But then our economy is so fucked that not having free daycare would fuck up the remains of the family unit even harder, so this is all super theoretical.

[TTTX]

I voted for her only because she wasn't obviously self-destructive like Trump is but it was a very last minute decision. I was going to sit that election out. It was a very bad choice: semi competent politician who has a reputation for corruption and a vision for the country I don't like or else blowhard moron who has some things I want to see done and other I don't with none of the requisite skill to get them done.

Basically: offensive incompetent idiot who will ruin our reputation but probably accomplish next to nothing in terms of actually harmful policy or probably corrupt person who will either maintain the toxic status quo or push us off farther in a bad direction.

*Three post obsessive limit.

In Denmark we have been forced to choose between a spineless ass and a female money grabbing ass these last 12 years now, (at least I think it's 12 years now).

Needless to say Danish politics have been a joke for far longer then the USA under Trump.

[Alienmorph]

We have new elections in a few months, and one of the strongest political forces involved is a right wing parties alliance made of anti-vax people and assholes that go on radio whining that too many immigrants are gonna put at risk the white race.

I fucking WISH I was joking.

[DarkStorm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLW3TItEQ3M

Not even Martin Luther King's nephew can save CNN.

[DarkStorm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXT2gNRbBeo

For a bunch rich entitled cunts, I like how to ask the non-rich to donate instead of funding it themselves.

[Mobius_118]

So when you watch the whole Don Lemon interview...Man, you're posting some doctored ass fake news there, Dark.

[DarkStorm]

Well its CNN, if you want to watch the full interview look it up on youtube.

Here I'll spare you the effort cause I know you wont.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02NIY80X7d4

Full 15mins.

[Mobius_118]

Did. Your video is a serious misrepresentation of what actually transpired.

[DarkStorm]

Lol, ok Bái Zuô!.

[Mazder]

Well its CNN, if you want to watch the full interview look it up on youtube.

Here I'll spare you the effort cause I know you wont.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02NIY80X7d4

Full 15mins.

Firstly this anchor is a smug fuck.

"If you're racially uninformed and you're ignorant what does it matter, doesn't that make you racist and maybe you're just ignorant and you don't know that you're racist?"
Um....WHAT?!?!?
How is not knowing what you're saying and not knowing it's connotations equate to actively trying to harm others and cause them pain and sorrow?

"No don it means you have done, or said, racist things unbeknownstly..."
"Well that's what I just said and that makes you racist"
"No, no, now, well, no it makes maybe what you said or done a racist act, but not racist in your heart. You an do some things and not be aware of doing them, and I think that's largely the case with President Trump."
While I don't think it applies to Trump I do think there are some uninformed schmucks out there that might do a one-off and then are labelled as a racist and shunned forever for a small unknown case.

"Well you're negating your own argument there because he believes it, in his ignorance he believes it"
Yeah but that doesn't actually make what he believes true, or informed. He could believe that bacon and ham don't come from the same animal because he's misinformed, that doesn't make him a porkist it simply makes him an idiot who said something he didn't kow anything about and was a brash idiot.
If someone informs him AND THEN he continues, yeah he's then a believer and problematic.

"He's the President, he has an obligation to be informed"
That didn't stop Obama pushing wage gap myths and continuing to be a christian though....so it doesn't matter how much they live up to their obligations it seems, Presidents will do what they please in that regard.

"It doesn't make you less racist because you're unaware or you deny your racism"
So if someone slanders me and it gets picked up by enough people on social media I am now a racist because no matter what I say enough people now believe I am racist, because I can't deny it? Even if I have done nothing racist ever?
Also doesn't it require active thought to be discriminatory? Which is one of the roots of racist activity and thought, the active belief of being discriminatory.

"We are at a time when the demographics in this country are changing, it's becoming less white"
"correct"
"You're making my point, so then if you're a white person who is afraid of that or that is concerning to you, what does it say?"
That you're worried about your National identity?
That you're worried your culture has a potential of being replaced? Because for some reason America puts a lot of it's culture on skin colour (for some odd fucking reason) so if there was a rapid and drastic change then that fear is legitimate to them as it would indicate an influx of a potentially conflicting culture.

"that you are losing...power...in some sense?"
Um....no.
If anything it's gaining "power", what you lose potentially is national identity and have a potential problem of people not willing to adopt to your country's belief systems, not willing to adopt laws and generally can be disruptive. That's a legitimate concern.

"I talk about it all the time with my white friends and they don't feel that way"
Yeah, because they're your friends. You are their "well I have a black friend so I can say this". You are literally using the same scapegoat argument and it's anecdotal at best.

"It is tough to call the president a liar, it is tough to call the president a racist."
Yeah, if you weren't saying shit with such a smug attitude I might be inclined to believe you're genuine in what you say.

Also "1960's don't matter it's 2018!" then why did you fucking bring it up then when basically comparing Trump to it if it didn't/doesn't matter to you?
Also this is nuRacists lol.

"No-one started out by calling Trump a racist"
Except the first person who called him a racist when he exhibited that first behaviour problem, which could or could not have been in ignorance, it's really neither here nor there, the point is those first ones to accuse him opened the can of worms of calling him racist.
Now he might be, but if we're to consider the concept of "enough people said it was true so even if it wasn't the intent to be racist he is seen s one now" then anything said after it is seen as racist because no-one bothered to inform him otherwise, they just kept calling him racist.
That is the problem here.
Yeah, he is probably racist to some degree, but lumbering those who make a mistake due to a lack of knowledge in with him AND genuine racists just muddies the waters of detecting true racists.

TBH the anchor this whole time was a bit of a smug prick and tbh it doesn't really matter if the indiscretion was racially charged or not at this point. Those who don't like him will add it to the list of things they already don't like and those that like him won't give a damn. The only ones who're going to need convincing are the ones on the fence and they're more confused now than ever.

[Vol]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Q2EPKKVrqI

11 years old, and came out 2 days after my birthday. Still, one of the silly moments that helped to begin to open my eyes. Thank you, Jib Jab.

[DarkStorm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5Y7y1vNlIE

[Mobius_118]

No, no he's not.

Psyche profiling is something I was trained in, and that Dr. who performed the physical was dodgy at best. There's no way a person who eats McDonalds, KFC, Burger King daily for every meal, and his only exercise is swinging a club while riding around on a golf cart is healthy in any respect.

That officer sacrificed his integrity and honor, something that should be ingrained into every person in the military, for the sake of keeping that bloated fat body happy. And that mental acuity test can be passed by anyone. He needs a real physical and a real mental health examination.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

Uh huh. Cry some more Mobius. You lost.

[Mazder]

If that mental acuity test can be passed by anyone and it's the standard required for the office then it's a pass and no questions asked. I don't see why he should perform above that to have to prove with a deeper/better test if it's the requirement for literally anyone in that office. Currently as far as cognitively he'd appear to be matching anyone else's requirement.

I mean even if he has heart disease he's still not exactly unfit for a world leader. Winston Churchill smoked daily and drank like a fish and still did fine.

[Raga]

Trump is an old fart and as such could kill over at any moment or have a stroke or break his hip, but that doesn't really make him more risky in that particular respect than Sanders or Clinton would have been, who are also old farts.

It's a little depressing to me that the best both parties seem to be able to muster in general are these geriatric warhorses. Doesn't speak much to the health of the system.

[Mobius_118]

Uh huh. Cry some more Mobius. You lost.

I didn't lose anything. It's the truth. That officer compromised himself. He's a fucking disgrace.

You might be comfortable with treason, but I am not. As more Senate seats flip to the blue, the truth will come out, especially with the Mueller investigation. You don't want to see it, that's fine. You're useless anyway. You don't stand to lose your earned benefits like I do with the shitbag in chief in office refusing to sign your checks because he's a big fucking child.

Trump is an old fart and as such could kill over at any moment or have a stroke or break his hip, but that doesn't really make him more risky in that particular respect than Sanders or Clinton would have been, who are also old farts.

It's a little depressing to me that the best both parties seem to be able to muster in general are these geriatric warhorses. Doesn't speak much to the health of the system.

What's funny is that Bill Clinton installed a running track in 93, and used it regularly. Barack Obama worked out regularly. Even Bush hit the gym. Trump plays a fuckload of golf, but he rides around in a cart. He's a fat body. To claim he's healthy is to claim GAC is an open-minded, pleasant fellow who isn't antagonistic in any way.

[TheodoricFriede]

John F. Kennedy had horrible back problems, and was on so many painkillers its a wonder he could remember he own name most days.

President Obama never did give up smoking.

F. D. R. had polio, couldn't walk, and near the end of his presidency/life, would often fall out of his wheel chair.

Dislike Trumps policy all you want. He is healthy enough, mentally and physically, to serve as President. No amount of arm chair physicians/psychologists are going to change that.

[Mobius_118]

And as he continues to degenerate mentally, are you going to maintain that flippant attitude?

He's already showing classic signs of dementia. Has been for years now. His supporters even more so, although that's self-induced.

[TheodoricFriede]

A white house doctor, who has been there for years, says otherwise.

Despite your... "experience" in the military as a foot-soldier, corporal, I think I'll go with the man who has a PHD.

[Mobius_118]

Well we can dispel the good MD's assessment with a clear, quick, concise comparison between Barack Obama, who's listed at 6'1", and trump, who says he's 6'3".



At best, they're the same height. The perpetual liar is even wearing mens heels, higher than Barack Obama's shoes.

Despite your...antagonistic attitude towards me, you can't deny that, at all.

[TheodoricFriede]

Look at yourself.

You are comparing the men's shoes.

Have some goddamned self respect.

[Mobius_118]

Actually I'm calling out the lies put forth by someone who's supposed to be a professional, but nitpick away. It's just the dear leader making a fool of himself on the daily, taking this country apart piece by piece because he's a demented old man.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

Look at yourself.

You are comparing the men's shoes.

Have some goddamned self respect.

He can't. He's in too deep now. He's so wrapped up into his retarded ideology that there can be no retreat. He can't be wrong.

Because if he were wrong then every shitty thing he's said and done would be for nothing. He's long since crossed the moral Rubicon.