Mobius_118 wrote:Man I can pull out the most recent events where trump wants to limit free speech, or I can go historical. But to answer your question, he's still attempting to limit the right to assemble in protest against his illegal activities. Those crazy liberals keep putting a stop to that particular brand of tyranny, though. Thank fuck for that. If those crazy conservatives can keep saying Michelle Obama is a man, then we can keep pointing out that trump's activities are illegal and divisive.
Which assemblies?
The ones where they are sitting around protesting peacefully, or the ones where they riot, smash shit and become a generally violent mob?
Or are we talking about the oh so legal protests like at the Kavanaugh vote where they stormed the upper balconies and yelled and caused a general disruption of proceedings?
Because, yeah, when they do shit like that when even if it was a case of the roles being reversed the situation is still not 100% allowed/acceptable.
Mobius_118 wrote:Either way you wouldn't believe it. And what I can do right now to make things better involves voting. Something the GOP hates and is actively trying to stop.
That isn't an isolated case, either. It's happening all over the south. Reminds me of the Chad votes back in the Bush days.
Edit: Fucking URL's..
Well to break down these links;
The first's article is written in a very odd way. The criticism of the "foolish people" in terms of free speech is the same as those in the EU. He's not doing anything new in terms of evil he's still an old guy who doesn't get the internet as much as all the others, Democrats included. I'm pretty sure he's calling for the same kinds of stuff the Democrats are calling for. Monitoring of the internet. The reason behind it doesn't matter it's the same thing in practice.
Also burning of the American Flag, yeah, no, you shouldn't do that. You know who does do that, terrorists and traitors.
No matter who sits in the seat of president the flag represents all in the country, and all who have fought and bled and died for those in that country. Burning the flag spits on their legacies and sacrifices. Burning the flag means you become as evil as the guy you hate in the chair as you're now as much a traitor as you feel they are.
It might be legal but it is honestly a really huge dick move to literally every ancestor of the USA and to everyone involved in it. Both good and bad.
IMO if you start burning the flag and you were American then honestly you're not any more as you're burning the representation of what America stands for and was built upon.
Flag burning is for enemy flags, if you burn your own flag you're now the enemy of the nation who's flag you burned. You sever all ties.
In terms of libel laws, yeah, sorry, but sometimes the press do step into those grounds with the "opinion pieces". I don't think having them open to being sued is a solution but he has a point that journalists shouldn't be free of the consequences if they are saying hateful things themselves. And note I said "if". I don't watch your media circus enough to know if they do or don't.
All the stuff on what happened during his rally speeches and all that happened there I don't really count as he wasn't president then. Intent is there, sure, but TBH the press were being pretty viscious to all of the candidates at some point.
And the quote of “I would never kill them but I do hate them. And some of them are such lying, disgusting people. It’s true.” This opinion has been around since at least the 60's in the UK so I am not adverse to someone hating on slimy fucking journalists.
The attacks section is all pretty much filled up with opinions either already mentioned or stuff from his twitter feed.
I don't see any actual legal action actually taken, nor any legislation put in place, or even proposed in the system.
But on the first attack;
Remember the Daily Mail scandals over here when they found the journalists were hording people's private data and doing basically illegal investigations into their privacy and then lied about destroying that data? For years. During one of the biggest left wing periods over here.
Yeah, so one reporter's data seized is a tiny drop in the ocean we've already seen. Gain some perspective. Plus he didn't even do it. Unless he was the literal person doing things in the investigation he presides of all investigations, both good and bad. Is he responsible for how the good ones turn out too? I'd hazard a guess you'd think probably not.
On to the voting registrations, it sounds more like an error in the system if a candidate can also be in charge of registrations for the area they're being voted in. That sounds like one of the areas that should be focused on. As soon as he became candidate for being the govenor he should have had his duties transferred to someone else, someone not in either political camp preferably, to continue the job of registration.
If suppression is done after that, then it's on a person by person basis and you can say "that guy is 100% to blame as he's the only one able to do this because the system isn't flawed".
Not saying Kemp wasn't doing it, only that right now the system as it stands in Georgia (and other states if what you say is true) there is a cause to call the system flawed first, which can get him a "get out clause" of playing ignorance saying "I didn't know my office's workload was so clogfed it affected things".
Again, just spending a little energy in trying to eliminate all areas where that sort of thing can happen is better than going after the guy himself with all your energy as it gives them time to double down and find their plausible deniability.
In regards to Trump, until he actually gets some legislation put through it's all opinionated mouthpiece. If it goes further than that then be poised to do something about it, or spend time making sure loopholes can't be found. If that means thinking evilly for a while in order to find them, then do it.
