Politics/Slapfights - Ancient history to modern day!

[Alienmorph]

Sargon is an anti-SJW that hasn't realized he's becoming just as bad as the thing he's trying to fight. I wouldn't trust a word he says, at this point. But I'll agree some of his older content is more valid.

And the Starship Troopers novel is very very pro-military, but that's a "product of its times" kind of thing. It was written during the final phase of the cold war by a very right-leaning person who clearly thought military superiority was better than mutual nuclear annhilation. And the Verhoven movie instead does have an element of parody of the kind of pro-military mentality that spawned the book, but is first and foremost more a love letter to 80s action movies with badass marines fighting aliens or monsters.

I love that movie to pieces, it's probably one of the sci-fi action movies I've seen most times. Even more so than stuff like Aliens or Predator. It doesn't need to also get overly-politicized.

I'm sure the shitty reboot Sony is working on will be good enough for cheap, one-sided political commentary.

[Raga]

I think it's arguable it's "pro-military." At least in the way people usually mean by that - militaristic. There are two abiding overarching themes in it. 1. *Service* is good and should be a prerequisite of enfranchisement. 2. The "poor bloody infantry," the standard run of the mill grunt, the private, has historically and continues to do the vast bulk of the dirty, dangerous, bloody, grueling work of the armed forces and he gets little to no recognition or just deserts for it, either while he's doing it or after he's done.

I don't really have an issue with either of those or consider either to be militaristic. Now, it is true that a huge part of the book focuses on the frontline butchery part of war and the systems that enable that to take place. There's two reasons for that. 1. The book is written from Johnny Rico's point of view. If the only window on Western Civilization you had was a book written from the point of view of a soldier fighting in Afghanistan, you would indeed get a very militarized view of western society, but is that microcosm accurately reflective of the whole? 2. In the book, human civilization is currently embroiled in a fight for its very existence against an alien species. If you had only a book written from the point of view of a soldier (or frankly even a civilian in, say, Poland or France) in 1944, you would draw a conclusion that everything seems to revolve around fighting Nazis. Again, how representative is that of Poland or France generally?

[TheodoricFriede]

So there's like a 4000 person group of migrants all trying to reach the US border at once, all expecting to get in...

I can only assume that they expect that a group so large can basically overwhelm the system and they would all be allowed in?

This shit --THIS SHIT-- is what will push Trumps immigration agenda more then anything. The sheer gall, the audacity, of such a move makes me believe that the US needs to close its fucking borders for good.

[Augustei]

So there's like a 4000 person group of migrants all trying to reach the US border at once, all expecting to get in...

I can only assume that they expect that a group so large can basically overwhelm the system and they would all be allowed in?

This shit --THIS SHIT-- is what will push Trumps immigration agenda more then anything. The sheer gall, the audacity, of such a move makes me believe that the US needs to close its fucking borders for good.

Their clashes with police have been getting violent, Thought these photos were fake at first, from another event but apparently not

[TheodoricFriede]

Trump made the claim that they wouldn't be met with the National Guard, they would be met with the full on US Military.

If it comes down to it, I support the decision.

This is an insult to the entire country.

[Mobius_118]

Trump made the claim that they wouldn't be met with the National Guard, they would be met with the full on US Military.

If it comes down to it, I support the decision.

This is an insult to the entire country.

We caused this issue. Killing refugees is not the answer.

Also, I don't think you fully comprehend the ethical issue of using full US military action on 4000 civilians, ie, it's a war crime.

[TheodoricFriede]

Aaaaaaaand TIME.

How long was that Mazdar?

[Mobius_118]

A little less than 30 minutes.

And it's still a war crime to kill unarmed refugees.

Your rectal Ragnarokedness is invalid and wholly inappropriate.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

Aaaaaaaand TIME.

How long was that Mazdar?

Honestly it's kind of impressive.

And fuck these people. They try to cross the border illegally they get stopped. I'm sick of limp wristed responses on this.

[TheodoricFriede]

4000 people braking the law at the same time doesn't make it suddenly legal.

If they turn their asses around and go home when we tell them to turn their asses around and go home, then we are good. If they dont then they shouldn't have brought toddlers to a riot.

[Mobius_118]

Then ante up, bitch.

Go down to the border and kill yourself some refugees.

We created this mess. And your shrimp-dick response is bloodlust. Fucking pathetic.

[TheodoricFriede]

At what point do debates and arguments in the politics thread become abuse? I'm asking for a friend.

[Mobius_118]

Get fucked, Theo.

The United States created the problem the refugees are running from in Honduras. This is our fault, and you're all for pulling a shake and bake on them at the border.

An action that would ensure UN intervention, and every Service Member, leader above them, going all the way up to limp dick in chief getting charged with a war crime. Ideally, anyway. Killing civilians is not a rational response. The fact that you would back military action on civvies is just sad.

[TheodoricFriede]

Its not Bill Cosby's fault! The woman was just so attractive! She didn't give him any choice!

Cosby is the real victim here. The American idea of beauty is what drove him to drug those women!

[Mobius_118]

Quit being a bitch, Theo.

[TheodoricFriede]

That drug dealer was just trying to feed his family!

[Mobius_118]

You must be fun at parties.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

More fun than you at least. Then again Fanatics usually don't make good party guests.

[Mazder]

We caused this issue. Killing refugees is not the answer.

Also, I don't think you fully comprehend the ethical issue of using full US military action on 4000 civilians, ie, it's a war crime.

As someone who has been a part of an organization lumbered with having to deal with the migrant problem.
GET FUCKED.
These aren't refugees. If they were they'd try and enter normally under the methods in place of actual immigration and asylum seeking. They're not doing this, they're rushing the border, trying to subvert the actual checkpoints of immigration and get in where they know there will be next to nothing you can do about them once they've squirreled away into your society, and that the only way to uproot those there illegally (which is a crime BTW, so nice new innocent people committing a crime right off of climbing the fence) is to get a little mean to those who have no right to be there in the first place.
These are a mass of people trying to enter your country illegally, impugning your rightful borders and sovereign right to hold your own lands for your own purposes. You might not have the sovereign but your country has the sovereign right to it's own borders by way of having a government to back up that claim.

Aaaaaaaand TIME.

How long was that Mazdar?

About 2 weeks, maybe?
I honestly didn't track it.
BUT I did say that only mattered outside of this thread as this is the place to have those spats.
So I'll judge a half measure.

Then ante up, bitch.

Go down to the border and kill yourself some refugees.

We created this mess. And your shrimp-dick response is bloodlust. Fucking pathetic.

If by "we" you mean the government for about 40 years now not giving the proper support to mexico to uproot and eliminate the cartels, administrations that include 8 years of BIG BARRY's administration not doing it then, yeah, you really did fail.

That being said these people running the border still aren't innocent as they're not going through proper channels of asylum seeking either.
It's not bloodlust, it's an actual application of the law. If you want the "bloodlust" to stop, learn spanish, haul your arse to the border and tell them what to do to get into the USA legally.

[Mobius_118]

More fun than you at least. Then again Fanatics usually don't make good party guests.

I love how your assumptions of me probably include a vagina hat and pride shirts.

It'd be funny if you weren't a figurative brown shirt.

And you think a reasonable, logical response is to drop ordinance.

Burn out 4 thousand people who have no way of defending themselves realistically. That includes women and children.

It's like watching a psychosis manifest itself in real time. Otherwise ordinary people, except for the cancerous asshole GAC, advocating a war crime without a sense of irony.

And not one of you served in the military. Not one of you have the discipline nor experience to truly appreciate the laws and regulations that go into making sure killing civilians is avoided as best as possible.

You people need to take a long, hard look in a mirror and question yourselves. Truly examine your motivations, because this is not sane human behavior. I get called a fanatic, but you're all too willing to mass-murder something we caused in the first place.

[TheodoricFriede]

Shit, there are armed guards at this bank. But I'm already in the parking lot, I have NO CHOICE but to rob this bank.

[Mobius_118]

You really are a dumbfuck equating the two.

[Mazder]

And you think a reasonable, logical response is to drop ordinance.

Burn out 4 thousand people who have no way of defending themselves realistically. That includes women and children.

It's like watching a psychosis manifest itself in real time. Otherwise ordinary people, except for the cancerous asshole GAC, advocating a war crime without a sense of irony.

And not one of you served in the military. Not one of you have the discipline nor experience to truly appreciate the laws and regulations that go into making sure killing civilians is avoided as best as possible.

You people need to take a long, hard look in a mirror and question yourselves. Truly examine your motivations, because this is not sane human behavior. I get called a fanatic, but you're all too willing to mass-murder something we caused in the first place.

If they continue to march on your borders and do not turn away when warned you must respond with force as a deterrent, otherwise the point of your border is rendered null and void, making the point of illegal immigrants null and void. Seeing as this is not the case and your country is maintaining a border then the needs of the border must be upheld.

It's not a "war crime" if these people are continuing to attempt to breach the borders of the USA illegally. You'd not think twice if a cop has to shoot a citizen with reasonable force if they're committing a crime so why is it any different with these people when they're committing a crime of invasion at worst and illegal border crossing at best.
Repelling is not the same as going out hunting for them, they came to you, they were warned to come no further or they'd be met with deadly force. They were warned, they came anyway.
It's not as if they're going to stop once over the border. It's not as if they're just seeking safety over the line. They want to move there and replace you.There is enough people to put forth a claim of seeking asylum. They could have requested a refugee camp for themselves over the border and gotten the safety they wanted that way. They didn't, they tried to cross illegally, maybe this is the deterrent to stop people crossing illegally as the measures currently being used are clearly, very obviously not working.

I am not wanting mass murder, but they seem to want to keep marching forward when told to stop. They have been told the way is shut, yet they keep coming. They've come through 2 other countries to get to you. they could have settled in either country and probably would have integrated better as those countries are closer to their culture. Both Guatemala and Mexico have washed their hands of them and then dumped them on your doorstep. Ether nation could have stopped this, either nation could have helped. Either nation could have housed them and asked for aid.
They didn't.

A lot of shit is going wrong. Not all of it is the blame of the USA.

The USA border is closed to illegal immigrants. If they want in they have to request asylum or enter legally. Until then anyone that attempts a crossing shall be turned away and met with the full force allowed if necessary as that's the job of border control.
If I went down to mexico and tried to cross illegally I'd expect to be met with the same force. It's not a case of being humanitarian, it's a case of maintaining the border as it is, else-wise there is no point to calling yourself a nation.

You really are a dumbfuck equating the two.

Not really, no.
They have no place there legally. They're trying to enter the place they're not allowed to and use it's resources.
At the end of the day that's what they're doing as they've put forth no request for asylum, they've not asked for entry. They've tried to force themselves in by playing to your humanitarian nature. they're abusing your good nature as they know they'd get in because of the humanity.
It's how militant muslim terrorists entered my country and blew up a kids concert and ran people down in the streets of London.

Yeah, it might not be that this time but the next time might, or the next time.

Stop falling for this trick.

[Mobius_118]

You're still oking a warcrime.

In case you can't be assed to actually look it up, here it is in full.

For the purpose of this Statute, ‘war crimes’ means:
Grave breaches of the Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949, namely, any of the following acts against persons or property protected under the provisions of the relevant Geneva Convention:
Wilful killing

Torture or inhuman treatment, including biological experiments;

Wilfully causing great suffering, or serious injury to body or health;

Extensive destruction and appropriation of property, not justified by military necessity and carried out unlawfully and wantonly;

Compelling a prisoner of war or other protected person to serve in the forces of a hostile Power;

Wilfully depriving a prisoner of war or other protected person of the rights of fair and regular trial;

Unlawful deportation or transfer or unlawful confinement;

Taking of hostages.

Military use against refugees is definitely a war crime under UN jurisdiction.

The fact that the US is directly responsible for this caravan means that we have an obligation to address it using humanitarian aid, not bombs.

[Mazder]

The fact that the US is directly responsible for this caravan means that we have an obligation to address it using humanitarian aid, not bombs.

You keep saying this part but not how or why though?

As far as I know it's 400 random fucks from 3 country's over.

[Mobius_118]

Refugees from Honduras, escaping the regime we installed.

It's rather telling when the Infantryman is telling you that mass murder is wrong, and you're supporting it.

[TTTX]

Refugees from Honduras, escaping the regime we installed.

It's rather telling when the Infantryman is telling you that mass murder is wrong, and you're supporting it.

Still doesn't give them the right to storm the border.

[Mobius_118]

True, however the correct response isn't to start killing them.

[TTTX]

True, however the correct response isn't to start killing them.

easy to say when you aren't in their way.

Mobs can be very dangerous even if they don't have weapons and can kill people very easily.

[Mazder]

Refugees from Honduras, escaping the regime we installed.

It's rather telling when the Infantryman is telling you that mass murder is wrong, and you're supporting it.

Not supporting mass murder dunderhead.
I don't support what happened but I am not in shock about it.
They were warned of the consequences and they've tested the bluff an the consequences occurred. Now they know they need to go through poper immigration instead of trying to enter illegally as anyone should.
I do not want more people to die, but if they continue as they are I have less sympathy for them as they have been warned of the consequences for their actions.
They're in mexico now, Honduras can't touch them, they can now spend time applying for asylum.

Also which regime, the one from 2009 or the one from the 1980's?
If it's the one form 2009 then that was Obama's administration that did nothing/installed that regime...
So the current administration isn't to blame for outsing them, or is responsible for them getting out of their homeland.

[Mobius_118]

I didn't blame trump, dipshit.

Although trump wanting to use us to deter a now 7,000 person caravan would constitute law violations here in the US since we're not allowed to deploy on our own soil. So we're already fucking up here.

If we were to do it, we'd have to deploy to Mexico. Mexico would have to request support to allow it. And it would have to be approved by Congress.

And we are still violating international law, regardless of how it goes.

I dunno how you can mentally dance around legality issues, but I've already laid out how deploying troops to deter a refugee caravan can result in a war crime. Because baby-dicks like trump will not send humanitarian aid. It'll be a slaughter. We'll be violating laws here, Mexico, and the UN.

Do you understand that?

[Mazder]

I didn't blame trump, dipshit.

Although trump wanting to use us to deter a now 7,000 person caravan would constitute law violations here in the US since we're not allowed to deploy on our own soil. So we're already fucking up here.

If we were to do it, we'd have to deploy to Mexico. Mexico would have to request support to allow it. And it would have to be approved by Congress.

And we are still violating international law, regardless of how it goes.

I dunno how you can mentally dance around legality issues, but I've already laid out how deploying troops to deter a refugee caravan can result in a war crime. Because baby-dicks like trump will not send humanitarian aid. It'll be a slaughter. We'll be violating laws here, Mexico, and the UN.

Do you understand that?

Yeah, yeah, legally this, legally that. Doesn't stop the case of illegal immigrants trying to force their way in by sheer force of numbers and using those same laws as a shield to justify breaking the law by entering your country illegally.
There is no good person in this scenario, so if it's a case of you vs them I feel you have more of a right to defend your land from outside influence and intruders than those intruders have to invade it.

You want them in, you house them in your own home. If not, get off the humanitarian train and recognize where your border is. It's regretful but honestly there is a case that these people need to use their numbers diplomatically rather than by force.
I am pretty sure if they'd requested asylum instead of charging the border they'd have been in a better situation. They chose the wrong path. Hard, cold calculus of life.

Honestly, right now as it stands all I see is 7000 people using the good nature of the "not wanting to be seen as causing mass murder" to bully their way into a place they have no right to be, especially in the manner they're doing it. If they're truly fleeing Honduras then they can appeal to the country they're already in for asylum. The American border is shut and should remain so to all those unwilling to go through the legal system, as it has been ever since it was put into place.

And humanitarian aid is all well and good, but what about Mexico, Belize and Guatemala? Where is the blame for them not sending aid? Where is the blame for them not taking care of these migrants while they were in those countries? Why is it now it becomes a problem now they're trying to enter the USA illegally? Why were you guys not worried about this humanitarian aid to be sent years/months ago? Why do you only care now they're at the wall of spears they've been heading to all this time? Why were they not warning them there was no way over the border?
Why is it now that the US border is being defended as it would be against any aggressor that things are suddenly your fault?

It should have been your fault you did nothing earlier, not the fault you're doing something now.

[Vol]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sazitj4x6YI

I didn't watch this rally, since he rarely says new stuff anymore, but I did catch a clip where I could have sworn he said "Hail victory" until I re-watched it. But I imagine this is going to be the headline on my shitrag local paper tomorrow.

[Mobius_118]

Bombs sent to the Obamas and the Clintons.

So...any of you proud boys want to comment? You probably shouldn't.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

Meh. Barry shouldn't have gotten anything.

Hilary deserves worse.

[Vol]

Last I heard a minute ago, they found packages going to Obama, Clinton, Schultz, Brennan, CNN, Cuomo, and Kamala Harris. None went off, clearly.

So if this was a real attack, then it stands to reason a totally incompetent person/group would fuck them all up, since explosives are tricky as I understand it. Some working and some not would take a degree of competence.

However the timing and the list of people targeted has resulted in t_d and similar folks immediately jumping to claiming it's a false flag.

I'm not sure where to stand yet. Clearly some of those people have their mailed screened, so anything suspicious is not getting through, and none of the bombs actually went off. Plus the target list is odd. However, it's entirely possible it's real, civility in American politics has been declared dead after all. So if so, whoever did is either channeling the Dunning Krueger Effect something fierce or they wanted to instill fear more than actually assassinate. Or it's all a big false flag to gin up outrage and advance the authoritarian state. Take your pick, we'll know more soon enough.

Edit: Now I'm hearing Cory "Spartacus" Booker and Eric Holder got ones too.

[FrozenShadow]

About this 4000 refugee caravan on the way of US.

At this point, it would be best to build up a real refugee camp, either on Mexico side of the border or most likely US side. If it is on US side, then let the people cross the border, but then transport them to this camp few miles from the border. Then you house these people on this camp, while they start the actual process of possible finding out valid reason for these people to actually legally enter further into the country. If there is no valid reason, then the people are send back. This way these people are taken care of peacefully, while preventing them to actually truly entering the country right away.

Also joking comment. Now that these 4000 people are coming to US, Trump and co should recruit them as workers for the this new Wall they try to build. If these people help to build the wall, they would not only get salary from it, they could be promised a citizenship, after the wall is build.

Sure, I'm joking here. But if something like this would happen, then at least those 4,000 people would have earned their entry to US.

[TheodoricFriede]

I think we should build a giant revolving door that doesn't actually have an exit side. So then can go into the door, spin around, and then go back home.

[Mazder]

About this 4000 refugee caravan on the way of US.

At this point, it would be best to build up a real refugee camp, either on Mexico side of the border or most likely US side. If it is on US side, then let the people cross the border, but then transport them to this camp few miles from the border. Then you house these people on this camp, while they start the actual process of possible finding out valid reason for these people to actually legally enter further into the country. If there is no valid reason, then the people are send back. This way these people are taken care of peacefully, while preventing them to actually truly entering the country right away.

Also joking comment. Now that these 4000 people are coming to US, Trump and co should recruit them as workers for the this new Wall they try to build. If these people help to build the wall, they would not only get salary from it, they could be promised a citizenship, after the wall is build.

Sure, I'm joking here. But if something like this would happen, then at least those 4,000 people would have earned their entry to US.

Trouble is they could have done that in Belize, Guatemala and Mexico but didn't.
They should have done that way before now.
They're not looking for asylum in general, but a comfy living in a top level Western society.

[Vol]

Gosh, why aren't they trying to stay in Mexico? That place rules! The people are so friendly and chill, the weather's soooooo nice and warm, and the food, omfg, totes divine. It's, like, so much better than bland, processed American "cuisine." There's this taco food truck that parks near the soy-free-soy-frogurt store, right next to that lesbian bar that got turned into a luxury doggy daycare spa, that makes _the best tacos_, here I have like a gajillion pics on my Snapchat of that. Anyway, Mexico rules, stay there!

It hurt me a little to type that.

[Mobius_118]

Meh. Barry shouldn't have gotten anything.

Hilary deserves worse.

For...What, being better than trump?

Just shut the fuck up, you're basically encouraging murder. Little bitches like you are complicit in this.

[Mazder]

Gosh, why aren't they trying to stay in Mexico? That place rules! The people are so friendly and chill, the weather's soooooo nice and warm, and the food, omfg, totes divine. It's, like, so much better than bland, processed American "cuisine." There's this taco food truck that parks near the soy-free-soy-frogurt store, right next to that lesbian bar that got turned into a luxury doggy daycare spa, that makes _the best tacos_, here I have like a gajillion pics on my Snapchat of that. Anyway, Mexico rules, stay there!

It hurt me a little to type that.

Honestly they should.
They're already in the country so they have more leverage for negotiations, they speak a form of spanish so less translation error, their culture groups are closer, they have less time to wait for safety and they'd also have an easy access to the USA for legal crossing later on down the line.
It makes absolutely no sense to keep rushing the border.

Also Mexico should do it's humanitarian duty too, yet they're not being held accountable for doing nothing while this caravan has been traversing their country.

[Mazder]

Meh. Barry shouldn't have gotten anything.

Hilary deserves worse.

For...What, being better than trump?

Just shut the fuck up, you're basically encouraging murder. Little bitches like you are complicit in this.

So it's not an issue of being/not being a monster for you to encourage the murder of those you think are Nazi's, which is more than one person, but GAC is a monster for encouraging murder of one person?

Numbers mean you're worse for encouraging the murder of more people, if encouraging murder on it's own is such a revolting thing to do and is the marker of a horrible person/monster in this case.
Or is there more to it?

[Augustei]

Meh. Barry shouldn't have gotten anything.

Hilary deserves worse.

For...What, being better than trump?

Just shut the fuck up, you're basically encouraging murder. Little bitches like you are complicit in this.

Better than Trump? idk about that, Trump is just ramping up all the old wars started by the Obama administration, and damaged US legitimacy even further than Barry did, with his stupid comments and the Iran deal. Hillary destabilized Libya which helped ISIS take over, brought back the slave trade and caused the worst refugee crisis in contemporary history which has almost single handedly destroyed the EU, and she wanted to do the same thing in Syria (This damaged US legitimacy so bad that the regional powers were holding peace conferences and not even inviting or telling Obama about it), was still pushing Iraq up until 2013.

She also championed her idiot bootlicker husbands repealing of glass-steagall which helped the banks become so powerful they can crash the global economy on a whim, and his 3 strikes law which put shitloads of those "super-predators" (her racist descriptor of blacks) in prison, and his telecomms act which resulted in all modern media being controlled by like 5 (or is it now 4) companies. Oh yeah and funneled all the DNC election funds into her campaign so they got slaughtered on the local level to the point the Republicans control so much of the country they can almost change the constitution on a whim, heck its a wonder Cheesecake doesn't love Hillary really, she's even encouraging republican voter turnout for the next election by showing her stupid face in the local campaigns.

And she couldn't even beat the least popular person running for president in recent history, despite Trump tripping over tables at every opportunity.
Oh yeah and the calls for less civility in recent days by her, can't forget that so she's on Trumps level now, and I even forgot to mention how she's such a massive warmonger the Keegans thought they could get one of their own as her VP, threatening to put nukes on china's doorstep (yeah like a trade war is on the same level), promising for open conflict with Iran, saying once elected she'd attack them, calling for a military response to alleged Russian hacking. Yeah she's a real piece of shit tbh. I won't say she is the worst US politician in recent history (There's a certain republican I have in mind that will probably run in 2024 that claims that title), but she is by a mile the worst democrat in recent history.

But yeah thinking the murder of politicians is a good idea is incredibly dumb, once you set that precedent they'll start dropping like flies and the US will have a serious fucking problem on its hands.

EDIT: Forgot to mention how she actually encouraged Trump winning the Republican nomination, so if you hate Trump you can thank Hillary for her part in that with her pied piper strategy which we found out about in the leaks. She knew how repulsive she was so she had to ensure the republican nominee was equally or more repulsive than her in the publics eyes.

[Augustei]

Gosh, why aren't they trying to stay in Mexico? That place rules! The people are so friendly and chill, the weather's soooooo nice and warm, and the food, omfg, totes divine. It's, like, so much better than bland, processed American "cuisine." There's this taco food truck that parks near the soy-free-soy-frogurt store, right next to that lesbian bar that got turned into a luxury doggy daycare spa, that makes _the best tacos_, here I have like a gajillion pics on my Snapchat of that. Anyway, Mexico rules, stay there!

It hurt me a little to type that.

Honestly they should.
They're already in the country so they have more leverage for negotiations, they speak a form of spanish so less translation error, their culture groups are closer, they have less time to wait for safety and they'd also have an easy access to the USA for legal crossing later on down the line.
It makes absolutely no sense to keep rushing the border.

Also Mexico should do it's humanitarian duty too, yet they're not being held accountable for doing nothing while this caravan has been traversing their country.

I wouldn't say not doing anything, they're trying, they're just incompetent. They tried to stop them and process them, which caused the numerous clashes with police which saw police getting beaten bloody by the violent thugs, and now they've almost doubled their numbers

[TheodoricFriede]

Crazy people tend to assume that everyone is as crazy as they are.

Thats probably why the Bombs were sent in the first place. And certain peoples reactions to said bombs.

[Alienmorph]

Hillary is good because she's better than Trump? That's a fucking low bar.

It's like saying being fucked in the ass is better than being stabbed in the shoulder. Some people might be into the first option, but you're gonna be sore as hell the day after either way.

[Mobius_118]

So it's not an issue of being/not being a monster for you to encourage the murder of those you think are Nazi's, which is more than one person, but GAC is a monster for encouraging murder of one person?

Numbers mean you're worse for encouraging the murder of more people, if encouraging murder on it's own is such a revolting thing to do and is the marker of a horrible person/monster in this case.
Or is there more to it?

It wasn't one person. It was every big name target trump continues to piss about. They were sent explosive devices.

This isn't a complex issue, especially when trump himself pushed for this kind of violence.

Crazy people tend to assume that everyone is as crazy as they are.

Thats probably why the Bombs were sent in the first place. And certain peoples reactions to said bombs.

You go apeshit if I compliment you. Also I'd never send explosives to anyone.

But hey, you know. Fuck it. Let's allow the real crazies to send bombs to people. And walk around with swastikas and rebel flags shouting about killing all niggers, spics, dune coons, and jews.

And then you have the audacity to insinuate that I'm crazy because I...Don't want to do that?

The fuck is the matter with you?

Hillary is good because she's better than Trump? That's a fucking low bar.

It's like saying being fucked in the ass is better than being stabbed in the shoulder. Some people might be into the first option, but you're gonna be sore as hell the day after either way.

The bar for being better than him is buried below the bedrock.

[Mazder]

It wasn't one person. It was every big name target trump continues to piss about. They were sent explosive devices.

This isn't a complex issue, especially when trump himself pushed for this kind of violence.

Oh for fuck sake.
It's not even about the issue at hand but the literal text of the post...
In the quoted text it was literally one person, Clinton. That's all he mentioned. That's the entirety of the amount of people in that quoted text.
Hence one person vs the multiples you have advocated murdering.

Plus, nice dodge at how it's totally okay for you to call for murder apparently.
Either it's all advocating for murder or none of it.
If you want your own to remain you gotta let him have his.

You go apeshit if I compliment you. Also I'd never send explosives to anyone.

But hey, you know. Fuck it. Let's allow the real crazies to send bombs to people. And walk around with swastikas and rebel flags shouting about killing all niggers, spics, dune coons, and jews.

And then you have the audacity to insinuate that I'm crazy because I...Don't want to do that?

The fuck is the matter with you?

Because he wants nothing to do with you or your opinions so your compliments are not seen as such. They're seen as a snarky insult.
You wonder why he doesn't want anything to do with you if you can't even understand that...

Nah, you'd rather choke them out or beat them with your fists.

So you don't want people to have freedom of speech then. As even if you don't like what they're saying they still have the right to say and do it. That's what America is all about. good and bad at the same time.

The bar for being better than him is buried below the bedrock.

Too bad the bar she has is only about half a foot higher...
Being the lesser of two evils doesn't make the woman good in any respects.

[Mobius_118]

Now you're excusing domestic terrorism.

I really want to know why you're ok with it. That does not indicate a sound mind.