Bioware General (Mass Effect/Dragon Age/Other)

[Mazder]

Except that's 100% cockney behaviour though...

Well cockney people suck so...

Oi!
My grandad's a cockney so ye leave off. (Or at the very least USED to be as he was a London boy but grew out of it in the Navy.)

Nah but seriously I understand where the unwelcome attitude comes from the accent and mannerisms of the cockney dialect come from. They're viewed in a similar way to the redneck dialects are.

[Someone With Mass]

Except people are all made up of personality traits.

Garruss: Professional, humerous, hard working, tenacious, lives free and easy, loyal.
Wrex: Loyal, family driven, wise, intimidating, stoic.
Tali: Bubbly, quirky, techie, shy, sly, exotic.
Liara: Dull, boring, blue, dreadful, crap, why, was, she, pushed, as, canon, LI?
Ashley: Family driven, military, tough, no-nonsense, abrasive.

I mean I get what you're saying but they can't exactly give the character's entire biography away because it most likely contains a lot of spoilers.

True enough, but they haven't exactly gone out of their way to make me give a damn about any of them yet. It only took a single trailer to pique my interest in the characters of ME2, so my standards aren't that high.

[TheodoricFriede]

Oi!
My grandad's a cockney so ye leave off. (Or at the very least USED to be as he was a London boy but grew out of it in the Navy.)

Nah but seriously I understand where the unwelcome attitude comes from the accent and mannerisms of the cockney dialect come from. They're viewed in a similar way to the redneck dialects are.

Sera is just absolute garbage.

[Mazder]

Sera is just absolute garbage.

She's not that bad.
Not as strong as other people are in the game but she's okay. She honestly needed more than just inquisition alone, or at least more time to address where her prejudices lie and to overcome and grow from them more.

True enough, but they haven't exactly gone out of their way to make me give a damn about any of them yet. It only took a single trailer to pique my interest in the characters of ME2, so my standards aren't that high.

Well to be fair that is a trailer for the sole purpose of showing off the new charcters.
They've not had one like that one yet.

Once they do then we can compare and contrast them.

[Someone With Mass]

Sera is just absolute garbage.

It's been over a year or more since I played it, but I'm pretty sure the introduction of Sera was the point where I quit DA:I, because I can't remember anything past that scene where she says something stupid and shoots a guy in the face with an arrow. I was on the verge of quitting when that scene came up and I thought that a new character might stir things up. NOPE.

I spent around fifteen hours on that game and it felt like I got nowhere in terms of anything. Fifteen hours into Mass Effect 2 would have landed me about Horizon or so with a distinct sense of progress.

[TTTX]

It's been over a year or more since I played it, but I'm pretty sure the introduction of Sera was the point where I quit DA:I, because I can't remember anything past that scene where she says something stupid and shoots a guy in the face with an arrow. I was on the verge of quitting when that scene came up and I thought that a new character might stir things up. NOPE.

I spent around fifteen hours on that game and it felt like I got nowhere in terms of anything. Fifteen hours into Mass Effect 2 would have landed me about Horizon or so with a distinct sense of progress.

To be fair to DA:I and ME2 they are both different geners and you have to work harder in DA:I in order to progress, while in ME2 is just go collect these people (which usually boil down too kill these people until the mission is over) until the next main mission about Collectors show up and let's be honest here if most ME2's character were not interesting well ME2 would be pretty much fall apparat as the characters it is its backbone.

Sera is just absolute garbage.

I think she is fine, she is just different and people don't like different.

[Someone With Mass]

To be fair to DA:I and ME2 they are both different geners and you have to work harder in DA:I in order to progress, while in ME2 is just go collect these people (which usually boil down too kill these people until the mission is over) until the next main mission about Collectors show up and let's be honest here if most ME2's character were not interesting well ME2 would be pretty much fall apparat as the characters it is its backbone.

Sera is just absolute garbage.

I think she is fine, she is just different and people don't like different.

That stands true for any game with a focus on story, though. If the characters are boring, then I won't care and the story will start to feel like a waste of time.

Also, I don't mind different. Annoying, on the other hand, is something else.

[TTTX]

That stands true for any game with a focus on story, though. If the characters are boring, then I won't care and the story will start to feel like a waste of time.

Also, I don't mind different. Annoying, on the other hand, is something else.

Well ME2 doesn't really have a story other then go collect people (which is like 80-90% of the main story) and kill the collectors, so it's a little more important for ME2 for most of the characters to not suck.

Well what people find annoying is different from person to person.

I find Anders and Merril in DA2 rather annoying, other people don't that just how things are.

[TheodoricFriede]

not inerested

[TTTX]

I want to light you on fire.

I have the right to have an opinion Theo, no matter how much you disagree with it.

[TheodoricFriede]

not my problem anymore

[Vol]

I liked Merril, I was quite fond of DA2's writing in general. But I can see why a lot of people don't. On the surface, if you don't pay attention, she can come across as a Tali-lite.

[TheodoricFriede]

I actually like her more than Tali at this point. I feel like theres actually more to Merrill than there is to Tali.

[TTTX]

And i have the right to light you on fire.

no you don't, you to the right to be the annoying child since you obviously haven't grown up yet.

I liked Merril, I was quite fond of DA2's writing in general. But I can see why a lot of people don't. On the surface, if you don't pay attention, she can come across as a Tali-lite.

well she can come across as a bit naive and a bit dumb (she does have magical and elven knowledge, so she isn't an idiot, but even after 6 years in Kirkwall she still break into people gardens for picking flowers and what not, so she doesn't seem to learn som basic city rules and norms).

I actually like her more than Tali at this point. I feel like theres actually more to Merrill than there is to Tali.

care to explain why you think why there is more to Merrill then Tali?

[Mazder]

and Merril in DA2 rather annoying

I want to light you on fire.

I also find her massively annoying. I mean she barely grows as a character, she does loads of shit behind your back and (as of that point in the story while playing DA2) takes a huge risk in a densely populated area, on top of a vein of red lyrium, with a bunch of jaded Qunari nearby who hate apostates and unchecked magic.
Her judgement isn't the best, she may have the most skill/book knowledge but has little practice in reading people or the situation around her, is very naive and not very knowledgeable of the world but will just blame everything on her naivete.

I liked Merril, I was quite fond of DA2's writing in general. But I can see why a lot of people don't. On the surface, if you don't pay attention, she can come across as a Tali-lite.

I wish she came across as Tali-lite.
I mean at least Tali follows orders and takes my advice into account.
At least Tali knows not to do the equivalent of lighting a cigar near a leaking Eezo fuel line, on a refinery ship, close to a large star about to go Nova.

care to explain why you think why there is more to Merrill then Tali?

No, he doesn't have time to explain, nor should he find time because it's not justified to talk about his opinion.

[Dragaros]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uL2RQpyKg04

[Dragaros]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcnsYTaUawI

[Dragaros]

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[TheodoricFriede]

im removing this. i dont even want it to become a thing.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

That was pretty obviously a joke TTTX.

Stop sperging.

[Mazder]

Take my joke more seriously jack ass. i fucking dare you.

Honest to god. SERIOUSLY?! You SERIOUSLY think that i ACTUALLY wanted to not only light you on fire because you didn't agree with my preferred video game wife, but that i also thought it was my right?

And than you call me the child?!

Okay, first of all, stop being offended for someone not understanding you as your mannerisms on here are extremely hard to decypher to someone who's grasp on the written English Language is less than yours by a significant margin.
Second of all if you wish to be understood more maybe you could use some punctuation once in a while to determine when you're actually mad or simply making a joke.

The phrase "I want to light you on fire." but said in a joke towards one person can and often is seen as the same phrase as "Go eat a dick." As said to Mobius which I presume you mean as an insult at the time, but what do I know when you throw them around so easily with no difference in punctuation.
Because that's the funny thing about some people not native to the English language. They sometimes don't get context clues from a surrounding conversation, hence why punctuation exists to imply one's emotions.
There are also typefaces, and emoticons these days, to show additional emphasis.

So this;
"

No, he doesn't have time to explain, nor should he find time because it's not justified to talk about his opinion.

"
Is a lot easier to understand than this;

Fuck you.

I want to light you on fire.

Go eat a dick.

(Taken from the Tali'Thread vas Clan Zorah nar BSN 6.0)

Do you not see how your "jokes" are extremely hard to determine to those who are not native to your language?



And just so we're on the subject;

And you can go fuck yourself too.

God, i thought this group was finally getting better, and people could say things without them being taken woefully out of context. But no thats fine.

You can fuck right off as it's okay for you to make a "joke" about lighting one of us on fire, but I make one about your literal mannerisms that you enact on a daily basis, calling out how abrasive you act and your seemingly endlessly disgruntled attitude at the same time, and you expect us to know your context without punctuation when you can't even understand ours with alterations to the typeface AND an emoticon used pretty much as an indicator for being cheeky.

I honestly think you need to make yourself more cler with better context clues and showing us a sie other than your disgruntled one once in a while.

That was pretty obviously a joke TTTX.

How?

And before you label me as "that guy" I have two other quotes from Theo, both actual insults.

Fuck you.

I want to light you on fire.

Go eat a dick.

(Taken from the Tali'Thread vas Clan Zorah nar BSN 6.0)

They all read exactly the same. there is literally no difference to their context clues surrounding them, nor are there any differences in the text, so how is a non-naive English speaker able to tell the difference?
Especially when the joke reads as an insult.
You can easily see how one can take a joke from Theo written as it is, to be an insult.

[TheodoricFriede]

Im editing this shit out because i dont even want to be a part of it anymore.

[TheodoricFriede]

What do you think, Turian or new race?

The facial structure is a bit strange, but it looks a bit like a lady turian. And has the weird breast shaped clothing.

[TTTX]

That was pretty obviously a joke TTTX.

Stop sperging.

Being light on fire isn't funny.

[TTTX]

What do you think, Turian or new race?

The facial structure is a bit strange, but it looks a bit like a lady turian. And has the weird breast shaped clothing.

to unclear to sure, the face looks turian but the hands looks odd though, the fingers looks to small compared to other turian hands.

[TheodoricFriede]

the fingers looks to small compared to other turian hands.

seem pretty big to me.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

That was pretty obviously a joke TTTX.

Stop sperging.

Being light on fire isn't funny.

I have a lot of fun when I'm lit.

[TTTX]

seem pretty big to me.

well the picture is unclear so it hard to see, but to me the fingers looks a bit off. it could be the armor though.

I have a lot of fun when I'm lit.

I don't get it.

[TheodoricFriede]

well the picture is unclear so it hard to see, but to me the fingers looks a bit off. it could be the armor though.

.

If anything its the head shape thats off to me. But that could just be perspective. It looks very female turian-y. Even down to the weird breast shaped chest armor because "how else will they know its a woman aside form the voice and the fact that she looks smaller and completely different?!"

[Alienmorph]

It coul also be a mutated turian. We've seen in some of the old teasers a shot of what looked like a mutated krogan, and since the keyword seems to be "more of the same, but (supposedly) better" I'm expecting husks-like mutants.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

I have a lot of fun when I'm lit.

I don't get it.

I know TTTX. I know.

[Someone With Mass]

Huh. I always thought that the barrel was the top part and that the bottom housed the senors for the gun's targeting computer. But what do I know? I've only played several hundred hours of the previous trilogy.

[Mazder]

Im editing this shit out because i dont even want to be a part of it anymore.

yeah except that's the problem, you are a part of it because it's how you act coupled with a lack of differentiation in your text.
Add some of that and we might have less of an issue, who knows.

But dropped anyway.

Huh. I always thought that the barrel was the top part and that the bottom housed the senors for the gun's targeting computer. But what do I know? I've only played several hundred hours of the previous trilogy.

This tyoe actually makes a bit more sense as you have the other variant with the scope on it ont he upper piece. If the upper piece was the gun part and the scope mount was to go through the gun to get to the targeting sensors then you'd have to build it i such a way that the targeting tech goes around the ammo feed. But in this version there would be no complex building.

It coul also be a mutated turian. We've seen in some of the old teasers a shot of what looked like a mutated krogan, and since the keyword seems to be "more of the same, but (supposedly) better" I'm expecting husks-like mutants.

or maybe the Kett adapted other races in their Galaxy, try to do it to the ones form ours and that's how they get mutated?
Maybe that's why humans are "so special" in the trailer because we have that whole adaptability thing going for us?
Maybe our genetic diversity is compatible, or at least more so, with the Kett?

[TTTX]

or maybe the Kett adapted other races in their Galaxy, try to do it to the ones form ours and that's how they get mutated?
Maybe that's why humans are "so special" in the trailer because we have that whole adaptability thing going for us?
Maybe our genetic diversity is compatible, or at least more so, with the Kett?

Or the special thing could just be the Ryder we choose to play is the special one because they got touched by some sort Remnant tech (that does something to organics, there do seems hints at the Remnants doing some synthersis stuff in their tech if we go by the color green at their vaults), similar to Shepard who gets touched by the Prothean beacon and that's what makes them special.

I'm just guessing as "you" can mean a single person or more, but I'm guessing it means Ryder since the Khet character grabs Ryder by the throat at then end.

[TheodoricFriede]

But dropped anyway.

Oh yeah, clearly.

[Mazder]

Oh yeah, clearly.

It was,until you replied just now, I am so sorry I replied once as a finisher after work.

I am so sorry I brought up a slight criticism with your behaviour that leads to people misunderstanding you, after you've bitched about people not understanding you.
Next time I'll just allow you to continue to be confusing.
Now this is done in here, if you have anything else, any snarky last comments you can find me in a PM.
But I already predict one coming anyway.

Or the special thing could just be the Ryder we choose to play is the special one because they got touched by some sort Remnant tech (that does something to organics, there do seems hints at the Remnants doing some synthersis stuff in their tech if we go by the color green at their vaults), similar to Shepard who gets touched by the Prothean beacon and that's what makes them special.

I'm just guessing as "you" can mean a single person or more, but I'm guessing it means Ryder since the Khet character grabs Ryder by the throat at then end.

I dunno the quote sounded a bit more on the side of "you" as a species.

I don't think it's connected to Synthesis.

[Alienmorph]

Of course it's not connected to Synthesis.

I think it's definately gonna be more of "there's something special about YOU" in the sense Ryder eventually does something that prooves him/herself as the leader and a worthy opponent in the eye on the enemy, or truly he/she's gonna get in contact of some alien macguffin that'll make him/her special, just like Shepard and Revan before.

[TTTX]

I dunno the quote sounded a bit more on the side of "you" as a species.

I don't think it's connected to Synthesis.

Can't know for sure though (I kind of hope it's not about the human race being special as it's been done to death in scifi, not to mention the whole humans have more genetic then for some reason even though the Asari have more different skin colours and since skin colour is tied to genetic, I'm calling BS on BW's explanation about humans was important to the Reapers because of the whole Dark Energy that was hinted at in ME2, but BW scrapped it and so I scrap the so call biology Mordin claimed), if BW actually had danish subtitles well I could tell you with certain which one it was.

I wouldn't rule out the possibility as we did see a flower in the small gameplay demo that shouldn't be alive and the last Khet guy who spoke had a robot kind of voice, so I wouldn't rule out synthesis plays a part in the story (I hope not, because it's a dumb plot point from ME3, but Walters is still on the team so I can it return for no other reason then to prove BW can do it right this time around).

[Someone With Mass]

Of course it's not connected to Synthesis.

I think it's definately gonna be more of "there's something special about YOU" in the sense Ryder eventually does something that prooves him/herself as the leader and a worthy opponent in the eye on the enemy, or truly he/she's gonna get in contact of some alien macguffin that'll make him/her special, just like Shepard and Revan before.

Man, if that's true, Andromeda is definitely going to be the Force Awakens of Mass Effect. Nothing too new and has enough of the old things to make the rabid and brainless fans go ape shit over it while everyone else sees it as a so-so product after the initial hype has died down.

[Alienmorph]

I still like Force Awakens personally. After seeying his performance with Star Trek, I was pretty sure what to expect from Abrhams, and for every annoying or cringe-worthy thing in that movie there was something I enjoyed. And I hated the prequels... not as vocally as ME3, but I was pretty much "I'm just glad it's over, I think I'm done with SW for a loooong time, if not for good" once I got to Revenge of the Sith.

If Andromeda could pull a SW:FA personally, I'd say is the least bad scenario, given what we know so far.

But FA isn't built ontop of a giant plothole, just so it can ingnore an even bigger and more infuriating pile of plotholes. Nor literally tosses aside almost the entirety of the SW universe lore and locations, and all of its main characters. So ME:Andromeda is already starting in a much more penalizing spot.

[TheodoricFriede]

All im saying is the special thing about me better be that my human penis triggers orgasm from turian women.

[Someone With Mass]

I still like Force Awakens personally. After seeying his performance with Star Trek, I was pretty sure what to expect from Abrhams, and for every annoying or cringe-worthy thing in that movie there was something I enjoyed. And I hated the prequels... not as vocally as ME3, but I was pretty much "I'm just glad it's over, I think I'm done with SW for a loooong time, if not for good" once I got to Revenge of the Sith.

If Andromeda could pull a SW:FA personally, I'd say is the least bad scenario, given what we know so far.

But FA isn't built ontop of a giant plothole, just so it can ingnore an even bigger and more infuriating pile of plotholes. Nor literally tosses aside almost the entirety of the SW universe lore and locations, and all of its main characters. So ME:Andromeda is already starting in a much more penalizing spot.

Oh, I liked Force Awakens too. I just have no desire to see it again. I just made the comparison because I think Andromeda sounds too much like the past Mass Effect games.

[Dragaros]

"So… who wants to jump into the abyss first?"

[Dragaros]

GET OFF OUR LAWN

[Dragaros]

Busy year, was 2185

[TheodoricFriede]

GET OFF OUR LAWN

I'd like to congratulate bioware on making an humanoid alien i have no interest in fucking.

Impressive. I didn't think that was possible.

[Someone With Mass]

GET OFF OUR LAWN

"We wanted the Kett to be foreboding, but certainly not ugly."

Too late for that. They're making the Collectors look like supermodels by comparison. Shit, they're making me think that a bullet to the face would be a visual improvement.