Films and TV (Untagged spoilers)

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On this day, 89 years ago, the first King Kong movie released in theaters. Happy Birthday to the Eighth Wonder of the World. While I'll always be Team Godzilla first and foremost, I got nothing but respect for the big monke. Long may he reign.

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On this day, 89 years ago, the first King Kong movie released in theaters. Happy Birthday to the Eighth Wonder of the World. While I'll always be Team Godzilla first and foremost, I got nothing but respect for the big monke. Long may he reign.

Considering the fact if it wasn't for King Kong Godzilla may not even exist apparently Japan made not 1 but 2 kajiu sized ape movie in response to King Kong both lost to time.

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So... there's a new Alien movie in the works, not just the show we already knew of.

And all I can think is...



*sighs*

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Saw The Batman with Robert Pattinson. Very moody and thematic movie, good plot, good acting, all together good. Only issue I took is everybody would instantly recognize the super chiseled jawline of Bruce Wayne. It looks so good. ^^

Also saw Uncharted, two weeks late. It's... a typical modern Hollywood adventure movie. Turn your head off, enjoy the action. Pretty forgettable, all around. Tom Holland is chiseled, though. Zendaya sure got a good deal on that. And no, I never played the Uncharted games, so I don't have the instant revulsion fans of the series have to this movie. ^^ Even so, MEDIOCRE MORSOW!

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So... there's a new Alien movie in the works, not just the show we already knew of.

At this point the Alien franchise is shattered in more pieces than Bishop after the abuse he took in Aliens and Alien 3.
By all means, Hollywood, prove my pessimism wrong and surprise me. I'd love to have to eat some crow because we got a good Alien film again, truly, but I'm not holding my breath. I've been burned too many times.

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Keanu Reeves as Batman.

Ace from Batman Beyond will always be Bruce's best dog in my book.

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Looks like the TWD audience likes Negan murdering people with his baseball bat enough to spawn a whole new show. How many Walking Dead spinoffs are there now?

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A God of War animated series could be a fun, but a live-action show would be doomed to failure.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWTfhyvzTx0

Oh, they busted out the Duel of the Fates music for extra nostalgia.

Is that the Grand Inquisitor? I've seen fan-made cosplays that looked leagues better. But the Grand Inquisitor isn't a great character and I'd rather they put money and effort into Vader looking right than the Grand Inquisitor, so that's no loss.

None of these inquisitors should pose a problem to Kenobi; he's on the same level as Vader, and Vader kicks the Inquisitors' asses every time he deigns to train them. Hell, every single Inquisitor has at least one cybernetic arm or leg because Vader likes to chop off their limbs during training just to rub it in how much stronger he is according to the comics.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWTfhyvzTx0

Oh, they busted out the Duel of the Fates music for extra nostalgia.

Is that the Grand Inquisitor? I've seen fan-made cosplays that looked leagues better. But the Grand Inquisitor isn't a great character and I'd rather they put money and effort into Vader looking right than the Grand Inquisitor, so that's no loss.

None of these inquisitors should pose a problem to Kenobi; he's on the same level as Vader, and Vader kicks the Inquisitors' asses every time he deigns to train them. Hell, every single Inquisitor has at least one cybernetic arm or leg because Vader likes to chop off their limbs during training just to rub it in how much stronger he is according to the comics.

I'd argue Kenobi is higher than Vader.
Last time they fought he cut both his legs and his other arm off, now he's stuck in a cumbersome life support suit.
If it is this era Kenobi still wins. Hell in episode 4 he basically lets Vader win.

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I'd argue Kenobi is higher than Vader.
Last time they fought he cut both his legs and his other arm off, now he's stuck in a cumbersome life support suit.
If it is this era Kenobi still wins. Hell in episode 4 he basically lets Vader win.

hard to say which one is better then the other since neither really fought at their best in ep4 and they were both very different people back in ep3.

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I'm gonna have to disagree. Vader should fucking obliterate Ben at this point in life. Not only because Kenobi hasn't gotten a good fight or the motivation to keep in shape for years, but also because he'd be facing "Jedi Hunter Vader", aka Anaking at the peak of his power and sitting as far away from the Light Side he's ever been. And he's kind of the person he hates the most in the whole whide universe (except maybe the Emperor or himself).

Also, it'd make thematical sense. Give the two a big battle, in which Vader goes so bersker on Ben that A - he thinks he's dead and doesn't go after him anymore, and B - Ben finally accepts that Anakin Skywalker is no more and only Vader is left, which is why he doesn't even call him by his real name when they have their final battle in Episode IV. And why he makes up the "lie" about Vader killing Anakin to Luke. A small retcon, yes, but one that would make a lot of sense.

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I'd argue Kenobi is higher than Vader.
Last time they fought he cut both his legs and his other arm off, now he's stuck in a cumbersome life support suit.
If it is this era Kenobi still wins. Hell in episode 4 he basically lets Vader win.

Anakin in the Mustafar duel is a dumbass who makes rookie mistakes because he’s running on pure emotion without any Sith training to keep him even remotely grounded, and he's unstable because of his doubts and his recent Force Choking of Padme eating at him. He tries to make that jump in one leap like an arrogant idiot, which cost him the fight when before they were pretty much even. Sith run on passion, true, but Anakin was just being downright self-destructive and irrational, which Obi-Wan could take advantage of. And then there’s Lucas pulling THE HIGH GROUND out of his ass, when that’s never really mattered before, and certainly didn’t help Maul in Episode 1.

At this point, Vader has years of Sith training under his belt, he's learned all the Sith doctrine, has a very different lightsaber technique (Anakin preferred traditional Djem So, while Vader used a heavily modified version of that while incorporating other forms into it like Makashi to make it his own) and is fully committed to the Dark Side. He’s trained the Inquisitors, killed numerous Jedi, and slaughtered countless rebels in countless warzones. He’s had years honing his rage and hate into a precise weapon of pure, cold, collected malice, combined with his own nigh-infinite well of self-loathing, which is all the fuel a Sith Lord could ever ask for. He’s performed many high-end Force rituals both with Palpatine and on his own, including tearing open a hole in space-time in an effort to bring back Padme on two different occasions and binding the spirit of the Grand Inquisitor to a single spot unable to pass on to rot for all eternity as punishment for his failure. While Vader will never be able to unlock his full Chosen One potential because of his extensive injuries and cybernetics, and isn't on the same level as Palpatine, he’s still a strong ass Sith Lord in his own right, who is much improved from what he was at the end of the Clone Wars. In the comics Vader can freeze an AT-AT and tear it apart piece by piece with the Force with no effort. We've never seen Anakin pull off a feat like that, except for a few moments in the Mortis arc in Clone Wars when he fights the Son and Daughter, but that was a very unique set of circumstances involving the Force Gods in their Force Heaven(or whatever the hell that mystical location was), so that's not something he could ordinarily do or replicate.

Vader’s suit doesn’t impede him anymore, like it did in some old EU stories. In all the recent books that feature his perspective, he mentions that once the bio-neuro sensors kick in, the suit just feels and acts like a natural second skin, and he’s able to modify his suit to make his own improvements as he wishes at will. Any stuff about Palpatine deliberately making the suit shitty to weaken him or punish him doesn’t apply anymore. (Outside of the obvious that cybernetics and Sith Lightning don’t mix well together, of course) And even in the old EU, the novel Dark Lord by James Luceno shows how Vader went from cumbersome cybernetic invalid who can barley walk to a terrifying Grim Reaper with a lightsaber who can take on multiple Jedi at once thanks to his growing Force power and Sith training allowing him to move past such physical limitations.

Vader and Obi-Wan in Episode 4 are completely deadlocked. Neither side could penetrate the other’s defenses. Perfect stalemate. Obi-Wan sacrificing himself so his allies wouldn’t risk their lives trying to save him and get them to escape stopped the duel before an honest winner could be decided. It's impossible to tell based on the information we have who would have won if they had been fighting without any distractions or outside factors affecting the battle. Take away Luke & company and the incoming Stormtroopers influencing Obi-Wan’s choices and who knows how that duel would have played out in its natural conclusion. Plus, the lore and story surrounding Force abilities, the nature of the Jedi & Sith, and Obi-Wan and Vader specifically, weren’t as fleshed out in 1977 as they are now.

Another thing to consider: Maul straight up says in Rebels that he couldn’t hope to defeat Vader alone, and Obi-Wan proved to be just as unbeatable for him as he effortlessly defeated Maul in just 3 moves in their final duel, when back in their Clone War days they were still evenly matched whenever they clashed in a fair fight, which shows just how much stronger Obi-wan and Vader became over the years. They both left Maul in the dust, and Maul was no weakling.

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"In our exclusive image above, we see Vader appearing to emerge from his meditation chamber, which begs the question: Since the meditation chamber allows the Sith Lord to remove his helmet (as seen in The Empire Strikes Back when poor Admiral Piett briefly admires the back of Vader's scarred head before the helmet is lowered over it), might this mean we will catch a glimpse of Vader sans mask in Obi-Wan Kenobi?
"I wish I could tell you," Christensen tells EW with a coy smile on his face. "I'm sworn to secrecy."
As for the kind of Dark Lord we'll see in the series that helps fill in the gap of time between Revenge of the Sith and A New Hope, Christensen is more straightforward: "We're going to see a very powerful Vader," promises the actor.
While it sounds like there is a chance we may see Vader unmasked, how much Vader in general will we actually see on the show?
"His shadow is cast across so much of what we do," series writer Joby Harold teases. "And the degree of his proximity to that shadow is something that we'll discover. But he is very much a part of the show emotionally for Obi-Wan, and possibly beyond that as well."

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"First image of Tom Hanks as Geppetto and Pinocchio (voiced by Benjamin Evan Ainsworth) in Disney’s live-action Pinocchio. Pinocchio will stream on Disney+ in 2022."

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"She-Hulk promo art arrives."

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"Warner Bros. has announced new theatrical release dates for some DC Films: Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom moves from December 16, 2022 to March 17, 2023. Black Adam moves from July 29, 2022 to October 21, 2022. DC League of Super-Pets moves from May 20, 2022 to July 29, 2022. The Flash moves from November 4, 2022 to June 23, 2023. Shazam Fury of the Gods moves up from June 2, 2023 to December 16, 2022."

"HBO Max has announced that it has ordered The Batman spinoff series, The Penguin (working title), starring Colin Farrell in the title role."

"An 'I Am Legend' sequel is in the works with Oscar nominee Will Smith and Emmy nominee Michael B. Jordan set to star in and produce the feature for Warner Bros. Oscar winner Akiva Goldsman, who adapted 2007’s 'I Am Legend' from Richard Matheson’s 1954 novel, will write the screenplay for the follow-up."

"Netflix’s One Piece live-action series adds six new cast members: Morgan Davies as Koby, Ilia Isorelýs Paulino as Alvida, McKinley Belcher III as Arlong, Jeff Ward as Buggy, Vincent Regan as Garp, and Aidan Scott as Helmeppo."

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Another thing to consider: Maul straight up says in Rebels that he couldn’t hope to defeat Vader alone, and Obi-Wan proved to be just as unbeatable for him as he effortlessly defeated Maul in just 3 moves in their final duel, when back in their Clone War days they were still evenly matched whenever they clashed in a fair fight, which shows just how much stronger Obi-wan and Vader became over the years. They both left Maul in the dust, and Maul was no weakling.

to be fair to Maul going up against Kenobi in rebels, Maul had been weaken by searching for Kenobi for like months so he wasn't the best condition physical and mentally.

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hard to say which one is better then the other since neither really fought at their best in ep4 and they were both very different people back in ep3.

I mean ep4 is more actor and time limitation TBH.

I'm gonna have to disagree. Vader should fucking obliterate Ben at this point in life. Not only because Kenobi hasn't gotten a good fight or the motivation to keep in shape for years, but also because he'd be facing "Jedi Hunter Vader", aka Anaking at the peak of his power and sitting as far away from the Light Side he's ever been. And he's kind of the person he hates the most in the whole whide universe (except maybe the Emperor or himself).

Also, it'd make thematical sense. Give the two a big battle, in which Vader goes so bersker on Ben that A - he thinks he's dead and doesn't go after him anymore, and B - Ben finally accepts that Anakin Skywalker is no more and only Vader is left, which is why he doesn't even call him by his real name when they have their final battle in Episode IV. And why he makes up the "lie" about Vader killing Anakin to Luke. A small retcon, yes, but one that would make a lot of sense.

If I am remembering correctly it was assumed that most of anakin's power in this stage is just fuelling his hate to live with the suit. Like his sheer anger is keeping him going most of the time, especially as this is still a time of adjustment to his suit for him.
Given how old Luke is in the trailer it's not more than 5 years, so assuming that existing on a desert planet isn't enough to keep Obi-Wan reasonably fit I will expect that he's not THAT out of shape.
Plus among Vader's first words to him in Episode 4 are "when I left you I was but the learner, now I am the master" which can imply not really a stomp on anakin's part but more a tactical retreat after a stalemate.
But that is reading into lines spoken when there was no guide for the prequels, let alone the kenobi series.

Anakin in the Mustafar duel is a dumbass who makes rookie mistakes because he’s running on pure emotion without any Sith training to keep him even remotely grounded, and he's unstable because of his doubts and his recent Force Choking of Padme eating at him. He tries to make that jump in one leap like an arrogant idiot, which cost him the fight when before they were pretty much even. Sith run on passion, true, but Anakin was just being downright self-destructive and irrational, which Obi-Wan could take advantage of. And then there’s Lucas pulling THE HIGH GROUND out of his ass, when that’s never really mattered before, and certainly didn’t help Maul in Episode 1.

At this point, Vader has years of Sith training under his belt, he's learned all the Sith doctrine, has a very different lightsaber technique (Anakin preferred traditional Djem So, while Vader used a heavily modified version of that while incorporating other forms into it like Makashi to make it his own) and is fully committed to the Dark Side. He’s trained the Inquisitors, killed numerous Jedi, and slaughtered countless rebels in countless warzones. He’s had years honing his rage and hate into a precise weapon of pure, cold, collected malice, combined with his own nigh-infinite well of self-loathing, which is all the fuel a Sith Lord could ever ask for. He’s performed many high-end Force rituals both with Palpatine and on his own, including tearing open a hole in space-time in an effort to bring back Padme on two different occasions and binding the spirit of the Grand Inquisitor to a single spot unable to pass on to rot for all eternity as punishment for his failure. While Vader will never be able to unlock his full Chosen One potential because of his extensive injuries and cybernetics, and isn't on the same level as Palpatine, he’s still a strong ass Sith Lord in his own right, who is much improved from what he was at the end of the Clone Wars. In the comics Vader can freeze an AT-AT and tear it apart piece by piece with the Force with no effort. We've never seen Anakin pull off a feat like that, except for a few moments in the Mortis arc in Clone Wars when he fights the Son and Daughter, but that was a very unique set of circumstances involving the Force Gods in their Force Heaven(or whatever the hell that mystical location was), so that's not something he could ordinarily do or replicate.

I mean, yes, but also the Light Side is when he's at his most powerful in Return of The Jedi to be able to survive Palp's lightning essentially dead-on to chuck him down into the reactor.
I wouldn't say he's learned all the Sith doctrine, and even if he has he's not mastered it. He didn't master Jedi doctrine when he had more time to do so with more resources and more people invested in him learning it. Plus Palps is not likely to share too much power so I doubt he's teaching Vader everything so quickly.

As far as the other stuff goes in terms of rooting the Grand Inquisitor in place and ripping a hole in space-time I don't know all about that, seems like comic lore to me form the sounds of it and I don't think that's going to be applied in this show. Plus the Force in comics always seems to be way out of strength compared to everything else. Not read them so I wouldn't know.

I mean in terms of training the Inquisitors who are at best dark jedi, yeah given their track record I'd say that's not a huge win in vader's favour.
2 get taken out by Cal Kestis and the Grand Inquisitor gets taken out by Kanan. In comparison to Obi-Wan they're total novices.

Vader’s suit doesn’t impede him anymore, like it did in some old EU stories. In all the recent books that feature his perspective, he mentions that once the bio-neuro sensors kick in, the suit just feels and acts like a natural second skin, and he’s able to modify his suit to make his own improvements as he wishes at will. Any stuff about Palpatine deliberately making the suit shitty to weaken him or punish him doesn’t apply anymore. (Outside of the obvious that cybernetics and Sith Lightning don’t mix well together, of course) And even in the old EU, the novel Dark Lord by James Luceno shows how Vader went from cumbersome cybernetic invalid who can barley walk to a terrifying Grim Reaper with a lightsaber who can take on multiple Jedi at once thanks to his growing Force power and Sith training allowing him to move past such physical limitations.

Oh so they made it boring now.
So he's no longer using his sheer fucking will to keep going any more.
Laaaame.
It was way more interesting when he had to actually work at moving past those limitations and it didn't come easy in a power boost like a fucking zenkai from DBZ...

Vader and Obi-Wan in Episode 4 are completely deadlocked. Neither side could penetrate the other’s defenses. Perfect stalemate. Obi-Wan sacrificing himself so his allies wouldn’t risk their lives trying to save him and get them to escape stopped the duel before an honest winner could be decided. It's impossible to tell based on the information we have who would have won if they had been fighting without any distractions or outside factors affecting the battle. Take away Luke & company and the incoming Stormtroopers influencing Obi-Wan’s choices and who knows how that duel would have played out in its natural conclusion. Plus, the lore and story surrounding Force abilities, the nature of the Jedi & Sith, and Obi-Wan and Vader specifically, weren’t as fleshed out in 1977 as they are now.

Yeah, so taking that as a guideline if by the time Obi-Wan is an old man and he's worked up to a stalemate then in the Kenobi show where it's barely 5-7 years past Revenge of the Sith then Obi-Wan is still a pretty big threat.
Otherwise they're gonna just fuck up the canon either way. If Vader stomps now then they've made the canon of Ep4 make no sense as to why it's not a stomp there, but if there is no stomp now then all the comics stuff is just bluster.

Another thing to consider: Maul straight up says in Rebels that he couldn’t hope to defeat Vader alone, and Obi-Wan proved to be just as unbeatable for him as he effortlessly defeated Maul in just 3 moves in their final duel, when back in their Clone War days they were still evenly matched whenever they clashed in a fair fight, which shows just how much stronger Obi-wan and Vader became over the years. They both left Maul in the dust, and Maul was no weakling.

Which just goes to show how this soon after RotS Obi-Wan is still a contender and it's still a very much even fight at best.
Plus Maul kinda went insane, he was as unbalanced ad anakin was, more so I'd say seeing as he never had any Jedi teachings to potentially calm him.

At the end of the day I don't think they're going to do a stomp as much with Vader.
Maybe, if I am putting my predictions hat on, he's the end of the series villain, comes in right at the end and Obi-Wan makes it out of a fight they have. Probably mostly equal, Obi-Wan being out of practice and Vader having grown a little into his Sith role.

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So the mergig/de facto buyot of Discovery and Warner Media has been approved both by the US government and the shareholders of the respective companies and will now become a thing.

Probably got something to do with all those movie delays 'n stuff.

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When I mean he’s learned the Sith doctrine, I’m more referring to the Sith philosophy on ways to channel emotion and draw on the Dark Side itself, rather than specific lore/skills/abilities. That's on me for not being clear. We all know Vader can’t cast Force Lightning because if he did he’d risk frying his robot parts, so Palpatine wouldn’t waste time teaching him and Vader probably wouldn’t bother to teach himself even if he had old Sith holocrons or texts that explained how to conjure it. And of course good old Sheev wouldn’t share all his secrets, but so vast is his knowledge even just giving out little bits and pieces could keep Vader satiated and patient for a long time before he'd have to even remotely wonder about Vader seriously considering trying to overthrow him. Vader, even in the throes of anger, is still "in control", which is very different to how Anakin handled himself in Episode 3, where drawing on the Dark Side that deeply without any means to focus himself causes him to act erratic and crazy; "Drunk on the Dark Side", as the memes and jokes go.

They actually flipped the reason of why takes off his helmet/suit; now Vader feels hellish torment whenever he's without his armor, but thanks to his Sith training he can channel the agony into fury, and in his fury deepen and sharpen his connection with the Force. So Vader deliberately makes himself suffer to train and recharge himself periodically, rather than removing his suit for the purpose of brief periods of rest and relaxation. Vader welcomes pain now, rather than trying to escape it, and even when his armor rids him of his physical pain, his mental/emotional/spiritual pain is still always there, and his hate and rage always continues to burn no matter what state he's in, something he never relinquishes according to his pov.

As to the notion that Vader was given sub-par cybernetics designed to deliberately weaken him, writers in the EU seemed to use that more as a way to explain why Vader in the original trilogy wasn’t running and jumping and flipping around like the prequel trilogy Force Users were or why the fight choreography wasn't as sharp rather than using it as a consistant attribute for Vader’s character, and that just seems like lazy writing in an attempt to fix something that didn’t need fixing, when its clearly just a example of movies being made in different styles in different decades with different budgets and different levels of stunt work with different areas of focus/tone/world-building. Considering just how much time, resources, and effort Palpatine put into turning Anakin into Vader, he'd want his best asset to have the proper tools to do his damn job until a suitable replacement could be found. I can see Palpatine being petty enough to not give him access to the top-tier fancy cyborg stuff that would be elegant and sleek and unobtrusive, but giving him shitty cybernetic lungs or arms on purpose would be such an absurd case of "Cutting off one's nose to spite one's face" not even Palpatine would sink that low. Vader's already vulnerable to his lightning; that would just be overkill even for a guy who likes to blow up planets with superweapons, and Vader wouldn't have lasted very long in any combat zone like that, let alone hunting down Jedi. Anakin failed on Mustafar, but the monster Sheev got in his stead was still a great prize, one he wouldn't just carelessly toss aside because his plan didn't go off perfectly. The suit isn’t perfect in the new canon either, there are times when his body is exerting itself so much the cybernetics can’t keep up. And in a time like that, a normal human would have to stop or risk dying, but Vader can keep going through sheer power and will for inhuman amounts of time. And Vader still had to get stronger through hard work. It's all merit, nothing he’s gained was easy or handed to him. Vader’s greatest strength lies not in his machine parts but in his flesh and will that refuse to die, bolstered by a connection to the Dark Side so potent it pushes back the hand of death itself. Before, in some books, Vader sometimes literally couldn’t lift his arms at certain degrees, or move faster than a walk if the situation called for it (like if a Star Destroyer was about to self-destruct and he needed to get to a shuttle ASAP), and now he can. And Vader still has to protect his center with all those vulnerable electronics on his chest; he was forced to modify his combat style to accommodate for that.

I never said that Vader should stomp Obi-Wan, I said that Obi-Wan should stomp the Inquisitors. The Inquisitors are amateurish tryhard clowns compared to someone like him. I think Vader and Obi-Wan are pretty much equals, both on roughly the same level. I imagine their upcoming duel in this show will be ultimately inconclusive, with both sides getting some good blows in, but with either Obi-wan deciding to retreat rather than continuing to risk his life in a fight because watching over Luke is more important, or some environmental hazard on whatever planet their on forces them apart.

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"William Hurt Dies At Age 71."

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Everyone's favorite giant alien cyborg space chicken just turned 50 the other day.

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